From cheungtifan at gmail.com  Thu May  1 01:48:28 2008
From: cheungtifan at gmail.com (Alex Zhang)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 01:48:28 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5q2j5byP5ZCv5Yqo4oCc5ZOy5oCd?=
	=?utf-8?b?6Ieq55Sx6L2v5Lu25Zu+5Lmm4oCd6K6h5YiS?=
In-Reply-To: <48187557.2050607@zeuux.org>
References: <48159E71.3040009@zeuux.org>
	<652870f40804290518y56aa334erd259a622cd933436@mail.gmail.com>
	<48171270.5020304@zeuux.org>
	<5fdc2ee10804300459m3b6ab9abt9a74bafc4ee961bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<48187557.2050607@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <5fdc2ee10804301048l7471cehb2aa1e884f346a68@mail.gmail.com>

??????????????6?4??????...??????
On 4/30/08, Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org> wrote:
>
> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
>  Alex Zhang ??:
>  ??????????????????????????????????????????
> Alex,Metsikao,Lancelot
>
> On 4/29/08, Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org> wrote:
>
>
>  ??????????????"????????"?
>
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ???
>
>
>
> Meng Yu ??:
>
>
>  ??????? ^_^
> ??????
>
> 2008/4/28 Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>:
>
>
> ??????????0????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
>
>
>  http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-handbook.cn.html
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org
>
>
>
>


-- 
Notes:
1. Fell free to EMail me and I'll fell free to ignore you
2. Use English or STANDARD Chinese (Traditional preferred, but
Simplified is also acceptable), or I'll certainly ignore you.
3. Use plain text, because I've gotta no rich-text processing system.
4. CheungTiFan at gmail.com is the ONLY email account I'll check everyday.

From peng.kyo at gmail.com  Sat May  3 10:47:27 2008
From: peng.kyo at gmail.com (J. Peng)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 10:47:27 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?gb2312?b?urrT7w==?=
In-Reply-To: <20080502213748.GB6040@ubuntu>
References: <4816DB06.7060007@Sun.COM>
	<b3a8e37e0804290133k535d1149s63a1cfd32ccb4060@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080502213748.GB6040@ubuntu>
Message-ID: <18c1e5f20805021947s772f3f20y5c03f5fb545cf623@mail.gmail.com>

2008/5/3 Jianjun Kong <kongjianjun at gmail.com>:

>
>  ??????????????????????
>

???GZ???????????, ?????????????????, ?????????.
?????????????, ??????,???,?????????.???????????.


-- 
J. Peng - Peng.Kyo at Gmail.com
Professional Chinese Squid supports
http://SquidCN.spaces.live.com/

From zhangweiwu at realss.com  Sun May  4 15:06:48 2008
From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 15:06:48 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?utf-8?b?546L5a6X5rGJ5a2X5L2T5LqJ6K6u5oOF5Ya1?=
	=?utf-8?b?77yf?=
Message-ID: <481D6088.8010907@realss.com>

???
http://www.shsh.ylc.edu.tw/~taichis/wp/20050812/343
<http://www.shsh.ylc.edu.tw/%7Etaichis/wp/20050812/343>

????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
??????

????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
?????????

-- 
Real Softservice

Huateng Tower, Unit 1788
Jia 302 3rd area of Jinsong, Chao Yang

Tel: +86 (10) 8773 0650 ext 603
Mobile: 135 9950 2413
http://www.realss.com



From Alex.Peng at Sun.COM  Mon May  5 15:31:16 2008
From: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM (Jian-xiang Alex Peng)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 15:31:16 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?gb2312?b?z7K7tsr90ae1xMXz09G/tLn9wLQgIDop?=
Message-ID: <481EB7C4.3090001@sun.com>

http://finmath.com/

From qingran at zeuux.org  Mon May  5 16:25:36 2008
From: qingran at zeuux.org (Xia Qingran)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 16:25:36 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5Zac5qyi5pWw5a2m55qE5pyL5Y+L55yL6L+H?=
 =?utf-8?b?5p2lICA6KQ==?=
In-Reply-To: <481EB7C4.3090001@sun.com>
References: <481EB7C4.3090001@sun.com>
Message-ID: <481EC480.1030806@zeuux.org>

Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> http://finmath.com/
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org
>
>   
?????

-- 
???
Xia Qingran
qingran at zeuux.org


From bill at zeuux.org  Mon May  5 17:23:48 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 17:23:48 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5Zac5qyi5pWw5a2m55qE5pyL5Y+L55yL6L+H?=
 =?utf-8?b?5p2lICA6KQ==?=
In-Reply-To: <481EC480.1030806@zeuux.org>
References: <481EB7C4.3090001@sun.com> <481EC480.1030806@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <481ED224.3000208@zeuux.org>

????????????????????

????????????????????Alex????????

Xia Qingran ??:
> Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
>   
>> http://finmath.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>> zeuux-universe mailing list
>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>>
>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
>> http://www.zeuux.org
>>
>>   
>>     
> ?????
>
>   
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080505/4c4027cc/attachment.html 

From bill at zeuux.org  Mon May  5 20:09:13 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 20:09:13 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?utf-8?b?5YWz5LqO5ZOy5oCd6YKu5Lu25YiX6KGo?=
Message-ID: <481EF8E9.5020701@zeuux.org>

????

?????????????????????????????????
http://www.zeuux.org/community/mailing-list.cn.html

???????????????????????????????????? 
??????????

???????????????????????????????????? 
??????????zeuux-press at zeuux.org?????


???
????????

From bill at zeuux.org  Mon May  5 20:56:18 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 20:56:18 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?utf-8?b?6K+35aSn5a625biu5Yqp5a6h6ZiF44CK5ZOy?=
 =?utf-8?b?5oCd6Ieq55Sx6L2v5Lu25omL5YaM44CL?=
Message-ID: <481F03F2.1040208@zeuux.org>

????

????????????????????
http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-press.cn.html

???????????????????????????????????? 
??????????????????????????4????????? 
?????????????????????????

??????????
http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-handbook.cn.html

??????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
??????????????????????

????????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
????????????????????????????????????? 
??????????????????????????????????

??????????????????????????????????? 
zeuux-press at zeuux.org????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????


happy hacking!

???
????????


From zhangweiwu at realss.com  Mon May  5 21:26:08 2008
From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 21:26:08 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?utf-8?b?5YWz5LqO5ZOy5oCd6YKu5Lu25YiX6KGo?=
In-Reply-To: <481EF8E9.5020701@zeuux.org>
References: <481EF8E9.5020701@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <481F0AF0.6090209@realss.com>

Bill Xu wrote:
> ????
>
> ?????????????????????????????????
> http://www.zeuux.org/community/mailing-list.cn.html
>
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ??????????
>
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ??????????zeuux-press at zeuux.org?????
>
>   

????????????????????????????????????
???????

-- 
Real Softservice

Huateng Tower, Unit 1788
Jia 302 3rd area of Jinsong, Chao Yang

Tel: +86 (10) 8773 0650 ext 603
Mobile: 135 9950 2413
http://www.realss.com


From qingran at zeuux.org  Mon May  5 23:59:21 2008
From: qingran at zeuux.org (Xia Qingran)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:59:21 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?gb2312?b?1dzLvMmzwfqjrbXaNMbao60yMDA4xOo11MIx?=
 =?gb2312?b?MMjVo63QwsDLzfgg1vfM4qO6RXh0NCDOxLz+z7XNs73pydw=?=
In-Reply-To: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>

Bill Xu wrote:
> ????
>
> ????4??????????????????????
>
> Coly????????????????ext4???????????????? 
> ????????????????????????????????????
>
>
>       ??????4??2008?5?10?????
>
>     * ???Ext4 ??????
>       <http://www.zeuux.org/pub/zeuux-monthly-3-200803-ext4-introduction.pdf>
>     * ???
>           o Coly Li <http://www.mlxos.org/>?Linux ??????????
>             ?Ext4?ocfs2???????????OpenIPMI?YaST?????
>             ??SuSE Labs?? <http://en.opensuse.org/User:Colyli>???
>             ?Novell <http://www.novell.com/linux/>?
>     * ????Ext4??????Linux
>     * ???OpenSuse???
>     * ???2008?5?10??????14?00?17?00?
>     * ?????? ??? ?????? 15? ?????????
>       <http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/MapSinaBus>?*?????20??
>       ???????15??????*
>     * ?????????????????????????????????
>       ??????????
>     * ????????138 1141 0476
>     * ???Coly Li <http://www.mlxos.org/>?OpenSuSe.org
>       <http://www.opensuse.org>?????
>
>
> ???http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-salon.cn.html
>
>
> ???
> ????????
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org
??6??????????????????? :D

-- 
???
Xia Qingran
qingran at zeuux.org


From arthur5933 at gmail.com  Tue May  6 09:29:47 2008
From: arthur5933 at gmail.com (arthur wang)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:29:47 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
	=?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCA=?=
	=?utf-8?b?5paH5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <55b9903b0805051805o62144e9fh3fabb36ea3700350@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
	<55b9903b0805051805o62144e9fh3fabb36ea3700350@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15ef8d370805051829r45e0865dxfab142d57cdd2a60@mail.gmail.com>

hamo.by
???

???????????????????????"?????????????"????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???


?08-5-6?Hamo <hamo.by at gmail.com> ???
>
> ???????????????????ext4??????????????????????????
>
> On 5/5/08, Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org> wrote:
> > Bill Xu wrote:
> > > ????
> > >
> > > ????4??????????????????????
> > >
> > > Coly????????????????ext4????????????????
> > > ????????????????????????????????????
> > >
> > >
> > >       ??????4??2008?5?10?????
> > >
> > >     * ???Ext4 ??????
> > >
> > <http://www.zeuux.org/pub/zeuux-monthly-3-200803-ext4-introduction.pdf>
> > >     * ???
> > >           o Coly Li <http://www.mlxos.org/>?Linux ??????????
> > >             ?Ext4?ocfs2???????????OpenIPMI?YaST?????
> > >             ??SuSE Labs?? <http://en.opensuse.org/User:Colyli>???
> > >             ?Novell <http://www.novell.com/linux/>?
> > >     * ????Ext4??????Linux
> > >     * ???OpenSuse???
> > >     * ???2008?5?10??????14?00?17?00?
> > >     * ?????? ??? ?????? 15? ?????????
> > >       <http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/MapSinaBus>?*?????20??
> > >       ???????15??????*
> > >     * ?????????????????????????????????
> > >       ??????????
> > >     * ????????138 1141 0476
> > >     * ???Coly Li <http://www.mlxos.org/>?OpenSuSe.org
> > >       <http://www.opensuse.org>?????
> > >
> > >
> > > ???http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-salon.cn.html
> > >
> > >
> > > ???
> > > ????????
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> > >
> > > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > > http://www.zeuux.org
> > ??6??????????????????? :D
> >
> > --
> > ???
> > Xia Qingran
> > qingran at zeuux.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> >
> > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > http://www.zeuux.org
>
> --
> Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com
>
> My Blog: http://hamobai.com
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org




-- 
                            ?
??

???

"??????"????????????????????????????

GTALK:arthur5933 at gmail.com <GTALK%3Aarthur5933 at gmail.com>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080506/71e68a30/attachment-0001.html 

From bill at zeuux.org  Tue May  6 10:17:31 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 10:17:31 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?utf-8?b?5YWz5LqO5ZOy5oCd6YKu5Lu25YiX6KGo?=
In-Reply-To: <481F0AF0.6090209@realss.com>
References: <481EF8E9.5020701@zeuux.org> <481F0AF0.6090209@realss.com>
Message-ID: <481FBFBB.5070705@zeuux.org>


> ????????????????????????????????????
> ???????
>   
???????????????????????????????????? 
zeuux-universe????????

??zeuux-universe??????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
?????????

????????????????????????

From bill at zeuux.org  Tue May  6 11:21:48 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 11:21:48 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?W0NQeVVHOjQ5MjU3XSBbRlddICDlhbPkuo4=?=
 =?utf-8?b?6Kej6K+7R05VIEdQTCB2ZXJzaW9uIDPnmoTmlofnq6A=?=
In-Reply-To: <481F4836.2070902@delphij.net>
References: <48158923.2060002@zeuux.org>
	<9dad9f0a0804280137g7c89413am76b4a17d7f56eaac@mail.gmail.com>
	<481F4836.2070902@delphij.net>
Message-ID: <481FCECC.80904@zeuux.org>


>
> ??GPL???????????????????????????
???????????????????????2????

?GNU GPL?
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

??????????GNU GPL???????????

    <one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does.>
    Copyright (C) <year>  <name of author>

    This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
    it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
    the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
    (at your option) any later version.

    This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
    but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
    MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
    GNU General Public License for more details.

    You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
    along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

???????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
???????copyright law?????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????GNU GPL????? 
?????copyright law???????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
??????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
??????????????copyleft?


> ??????
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????SFLC??????????
> ?????????????
> ???????????????????????????????GPL???
> ????????????????????????????
?????g++??GNU GPL?????????????busybox???????
> ??? Stallman?
> ???????????????????????????????????
??????????????????????????

???????????????????????????????

???????????Richard???????????????????

Join the boycott of Chinese products <http://www.BoycottMadeInChina.org> 
to support human rights for Tibetans and Chinese.

????????????????????5?????????????

????????????????Richard???????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????? 
?Tibetans and Chinese?????????????????????????? 
??????????????????????

???????????????RMS??????????????????? 
??????????????

> ?
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????????????????????
???????Richard????????????????????
>
> ???????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????????????
BSD????????shut up, and code?

??BSD??????????????????????GNU????????? 
?????????????

???

>
> | 2008/4/28 Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>:
> |> ????
> |>
> |>  ??2007?6?29???????????GNU GPL version3?????? 
> ???
> |>  ?????????????????????????IT?????? 
> V3???
> |>  ????????????????? GNU GPL v3????
> |>
> |>  ??????????CSDN?????????????GNU GPL v3????
> ???
> |>  http://www.zeuux.org/news/fsm-review-2007.cn.html
> |>
> |>  ????????????????????????????????? 
> ???
> |>  ????????????????????????????????? 
> ???
> |>  ?????????????????????????
>
> Cheers,
> - --
> Xin LI <delphij at delphij.net>    http://www.delphij.net/
> FreeBSD - The Power to Serve!
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
> iEYEARECAAYFAkgfSDUACgkQi+vbBBjt66C/zgCfexqiM3qVMEXEBQMfKWZxkZ4c
> z6MAoJ3D5NT8bisxnutsHMrf2e+n51Bj
> =vrun
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080506/322be1f5/attachment.html 

From bill at zeuux.org  Tue May  6 11:55:40 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 11:55:40 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?W3pldXV4LXByZXNzXSDor7flpKflrrbluK4=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Yqp5a6h6ZiF44CK5ZOy5oCd6Ieq55Sx6L2v5Lu25omL5YaM44CL?=
In-Reply-To: <200805061107249298992@hzbook.com>
References: <481F03F2.1040208@zeuux.org> <200805061107249298992@hzbook.com>
Message-ID: <481FD6BC.3040300@zeuux.org>



sheguang ??:
> Dear all,
>  
> ???????????????????????1500~2000??
???

>  
> ??????????????
>  
> ???????????????mm)
> 16? 185*260  206*283  210*297  210*285  185*230 (16??????????
>  
> 32? 130*185  140*206  148*210 140*210  115*185 
>  
> 64? 90*130  102*138  105*144  105*140
????????

>  
> ??????????????????
?????

>  
> ???
>  
> 2008-05-06
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> sheguang
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *????* Bill Xu
> *?????* 2008-05-05  23:27:04
> *????* Zeuux; zeuux-press
> *???*
> *???* [zeuux-press] ?????????????????
> ????
>  
> ????????????????????
> http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-press.cn.html
>  
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ??????????????????????????4????????? 
> ?????????????????????????
>  
> ??????????
> http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-handbook.cn.html
>  
> ??????????????????????????????????? 
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ??????????????????????
>  
> ????????????????????????????????????? 
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ????????????????????????????????????? 
> ??????????????????????????????????
>  
> ??????????????????????????????????? 
> zeuux-press at zeuux.org????????????????????????? 
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ???????????????
>  
>  
> happy hacking!
>  
> ???
> ????????
>  
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-press mailing list
> zeuux-press at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-press
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080506/14799374/attachment-0001.html 

From arthur5933 at gmail.com  Tue May  6 11:56:37 2008
From: arthur5933 at gmail.com (arthur wang)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 11:56:37 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?W0NQeVVHOjQ5MjU3XSBbRlddIOWFs+S6jg==?=
	=?utf-8?b?6Kej6K+7R05VIEdQTCB2ZXJzaW9uIDPnmoTmlofnq6A=?=
In-Reply-To: <481FCECC.80904@zeuux.org>
References: <48158923.2060002@zeuux.org>
	<9dad9f0a0804280137g7c89413am76b4a17d7f56eaac@mail.gmail.com>
	<481F4836.2070902@delphij.net> <481FCECC.80904@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <15ef8d370805052056y71357273pfdd136aaa3f61f07@mail.gmail.com>

 ?????????????????

?08-5-6?Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org> ???
>
>
>
> ??GPL???????????????"??"????????
>
> ???????????????????????2????
>
> ?GNU GPL?
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
>
> ??????????GNU GPL???????????
>
>     <one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does.>
>     Copyright (C) <year>  <name of author>
>
>     This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
>     it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
>     the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
>     (at your option) any later version.
>
>     This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
>     but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
>     MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
>     GNU General Public License for more details.
>
>     You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
>     along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
>
> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????copyright
> law?????????????????????????????????????????????????GNU
> GPL??????????copyright
> law?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????copyleft?
>
>
> ??????
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ??"??"??????SFLC??????????
>
> ?????????????
> ???????????????????????????????GPL???
> ????????????????????????????
>
> ?????g++??GNU GPL?????????????busybox???????
>
> ??? Stallman?
> ???????????????????????????????????
>
> ??????????????????????????
>
> ???????????????????????????????
>
> ???????????Richard???????????????????
>
> Join the boycott of Chinese products <http://www.boycottmadeinchina.org/>to support human rights for Tibetans and Chinese.
>
> ????????????????????5?????????????
>
> ????????????????Richard??????????????????????????????????????????????????"Tibetans
> and Chinese"???????????????????????????????????????????????
>
> ???????????????RMS?????????????????????????????????
>
> ?
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????????????????????
>
> ???????Richard????????????????????
>
>
> ???????????????????????????????????
> "??"????????????????????
>
> BSD????????shut up, and code?
>
> ??BSD??????????????????????GNU??????????????????????
>
> ???
>
>
> | 2008/4/28 Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org> <bill at zeuux.org>:
> |> ????
> |>
> |>  ??2007?6?29???????????GNU GPL version3?????????
> |>  ?????????????????????????IT??????V3???
> |>  ????????????????? GNU GPL v3????
> |>
> |>  ??????????CSDN?????????????GNU GPL v3????
> ???
> |>  http://www.zeuux.org/news/fsm-review-2007.cn.html
> |>
> |>  ????????????????????????????????????
> |>  ????????????????????????????????????
> |>  ?????????????????????????
>
> Cheers,
> - --
> Xin LI <delphij at delphij.net> <delphij at delphij.net>
> http://www.delphij.net/
> FreeBSD - The Power to Serve!
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
> iEYEARECAAYFAkgfSDUACgkQi+vbBBjt66C/zgCfexqiM3qVMEXEBQMfKWZxkZ4c
> z6MAoJ3D5NT8bisxnutsHMrf2e+n51Bj
> =vrun
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org
>



-- 
                            ?
??

???

"??????"????????????????????????????

GTALK:arthur5933 at gmail.com <GTALK%3Aarthur5933 at gmail.com>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080506/893c2c00/attachment.html 

From cheungtifan at gmail.com  Tue May  6 14:38:11 2008
From: cheungtifan at gmail.com (Alex Zhang)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:38:11 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?W0NQeVVHOjQ5MjU3XSBbRlddIOWFs+S6jg==?=
	=?utf-8?b?6Kej6K+7R05VIEdQTCB2ZXJzaW9uIDPnmoTmlofnq6A=?=
In-Reply-To: <15ef8d370805052056y71357273pfdd136aaa3f61f07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48158923.2060002@zeuux.org>
	<9dad9f0a0804280137g7c89413am76b4a17d7f56eaac@mail.gmail.com>
	<481F4836.2070902@delphij.net> <481FCECC.80904@zeuux.org>
	<15ef8d370805052056y71357273pfdd136aaa3f61f07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5fdc2ee10805052338s630410g8266246ae81cafc7@mail.gmail.com>

??Bill!
?????????gpl??????
??????vagaa,?????????????????????????????????

On 5/6/08, arthur wang <arthur5933 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  ?????????????????
>
> ?08-5-6?Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org> ???
> >
> >
> >
> > ??GPL???????????????"??"????????
> >
> > ???????????????????????2????
> >
> > ?GNU GPL?
> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
> >
> > ??????????GNU GPL???????????
> >
> >     <one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it
> does.>
> >     Copyright (C) <year>  <name of author>
> >
> >     This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
> >     it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
> >     the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
> >     (at your option) any later version.
> >
> >     This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
> >     but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
> >     MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
> >     GNU General Public License for more details.
> >
> >     You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
> >     along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>
> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
> >
> >
> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????copyright
> > law?????????????????????????????????????????????????GNU
> > GPL??????????copyright
> >
> law?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????copyleft?
> >
> >
> > ??????
> > ????????????????????????????????????
> > ??"??"??????SFLC??????????
> >
> > ?????????????
> > ???????????????????????????????GPL???
> > ????????????????????????????
> >
> > ?????g++??GNU GPL?????????????busybox???????
> >
> > ??? Stallman?
> > ???????????????????????????????????
> >
> > ??????????????????????????
> >
> > ???????????????????????????????
> >
> > ???????????Richard???????????????????
> >
> > Join the boycott of Chinese products
> <http://www.boycottmadeinchina.org/>to support human rights for Tibetans and
> Chinese.
> >
> > ????????????????????5?????????????
> >
> >
> ????????????????Richard??????????????????????????????????????????????????"Tibetans
> > and Chinese"???????????????????????????????????????????????
> >
> > ???????????????RMS?????????????????????????????????
> >
> > ?
> > ????????????????????????????????????
> > ????????????????????????????????
> >
> > ???????Richard????????????????????
> >
> >
> > ???????????????????????????????????
> > "??"????????????????????
> >
> > BSD????????shut up, and code?
> >
> > ??BSD??????????????????????GNU??????????????????????
> >
> > ???
> >
> >
> > | 2008/4/28 Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org> <bill at zeuux.org>:
> > |> ????
> > |>
> > |>  ??2007?6?29???????????GNU GPL version3?????????
> > |>  ?????????????????????????IT??????V3???
> > |>  ????????????????? GNU GPL v3????
> > |>
> > |>  ??????????CSDN?????????????GNU GPL v3????
> > ???
> > |>  http://www.zeuux.org/news/fsm-review-2007.cn.html
> > |>
> > |>  ????????????????????????????????????
> > |>  ????????????????????????????????????
> > |>  ?????????????????????????
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - --
> > Xin LI <delphij at delphij.net> <delphij at delphij.net>
> > http://www.delphij.net/
> > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve!
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD)
> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> >
> > iEYEARECAAYFAkgfSDUACgkQi+vbBBjt66C/zgCfexqiM3qVMEXEBQMfKWZxkZ4c
> > z6MAoJ3D5NT8bisxnutsHMrf2e+n51Bj
> > =vrun
> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> >
> > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > http://www.zeuux.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
>                             ?
> ??
>
> ???
>
> "??????"????????????????????????????
>
> GTALK:arthur5933 at gmail.com <GTALK%3Aarthur5933 at gmail.com>
>


-- 
Notes:
1. Fell free to EMail me and I'll fell free to ignore you
2. Use English or STANDARD Chinese (Traditional preferred, but
Simplified is also acceptable), or I'll certainly ignore you.
3. Use plain text, because I've gotta no rich-text processing system.
4. CheungTiFan at gmail.com is the ONLY email account I'll check everyday.

From cheungtifan at gmail.com  Tue May  6 14:51:36 2008
From: cheungtifan at gmail.com (Alex Zhang)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:51:36 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
	=?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCA=?=
	=?utf-8?b?5paH5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <15ef8d370805051829r45e0865dxfab142d57cdd2a60@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
	<55b9903b0805051805o62144e9fh3fabb36ea3700350@mail.gmail.com>
	<15ef8d370805051829r45e0865dxfab142d57cdd2a60@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5fdc2ee10805052351h5371ecc9uceaebe2d09cca0f6@mail.gmail.com>

???ext4???????????????????????????????????????????
zeuux???????????

On 5/6/08, arthur wang <arthur5933 at gmail.com> wrote:
> hamo.by
> ???
>
> ???????????????????????"?????????????"????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> ???
>
>
> ?08-5-6?Hamo <hamo.by at gmail.com> ???
> >
> > ???????????????????ext4??????????????????????????
> >
> > On 5/5/08, Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org> wrote:
> > > Bill Xu wrote:
> > > > ????
> > > >
> > > > ????4??????????????????????
> > > >
> > > > Coly????????????????ext4????????????????
> > > > ????????????????????????????????????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       ??????4??2008?5?10?????
> > > >
> > > >     * ???Ext4 ??????
> > > >
> > > <http://www.zeuux.org/pub/zeuux-monthly-3-200803-ext4-introduction.pdf>
> > > >     * ???
> > > >           o Coly Li <http://www.mlxos.org/>?Linux ??????????
> > > >             ?Ext4?ocfs2???????????OpenIPMI?YaST?????
> > > >             ??SuSE Labs?? <http://en.opensuse.org/User:Colyli>???
> > > >             ?Novell <http://www.novell.com/linux/>?
> > > >     * ????Ext4??????Linux
> > > >     * ???OpenSuse???
> > > >     * ???2008?5?10??????14?00?17?00?
> > > >     * ?????? ??? ?????? 15? ?????????
> > > >       <http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/MapSinaBus>?*?????20??
> > > >       ???????15??????*
> > > >     * ?????????????????????????????????
> > > >       ??????????
> > > >     * ????????138 1141 0476
> > > >     * ???Coly Li <http://www.mlxos.org/>?OpenSuSe.org
> > > >       <http://www.opensuse.org>?????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ???http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-salon.cn.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ???
> > > > ????????
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > > > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > > > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> > > >
> > > > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > > > http://www.zeuux.org
> > > ??6??????????????????? :D
> > >
> > > --
> > > ???
> > > Xia Qingran
> > > qingran at zeuux.org
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> > >
> > > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > > http://www.zeuux.org
> >
> > --
> > Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com
> >
> > My Blog: http://hamobai.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> >
> > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > http://www.zeuux.org
>
>
>
>
> --
>                             ?
> ??
>
> ???
>
> "??????"????????????????????????????
>
> GTALK:arthur5933 at gmail.com <GTALK%3Aarthur5933 at gmail.com>
>


-- 
Notes:
1. Fell free to EMail me and I'll fell free to ignore you
2. Use English or STANDARD Chinese (Traditional preferred, but
Simplified is also acceptable), or I'll certainly ignore you.
3. Use plain text, because I've gotta no rich-text processing system.
4. CheungTiFan at gmail.com is the ONLY email account I'll check everyday.

From bill at zeuux.org  Tue May  6 15:18:26 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 15:18:26 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <5fdc2ee10805052351h5371ecc9uceaebe2d09cca0f6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org>
	<481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>	<55b9903b0805051805o62144e9fh3fabb36ea3700350@mail.gmail.com>	<15ef8d370805051829r45e0865dxfab142d57cdd2a60@mail.gmail.com>
	<5fdc2ee10805052351h5371ecc9uceaebe2d09cca0f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48200642.8040106@zeuux.org>



Alex Zhang ??:
> ???ext4???????????????????????????????????????????
>   
> zeuux???????????
>   
???????????????????????????????????? 
????

> On 5/6/08, arthur wang <arthur5933 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> hamo.by
>> ???
>>
>> ???????????????????????"?????????????"????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>> ???
>>
>>
>> ?08-5-6?Hamo <hamo.by at gmail.com> ???
>>     
>>> ???????????????????ext4??????????????????????????
>>>
>>> On 5/5/08, Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Bill Xu wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> ????
>>>>>
>>>>> ????4??????????????????????
>>>>>
>>>>> Coly????????????????ext4????????????????
>>>>> ????????????????????????????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       ??????4??2008?5?10?????
>>>>>
>>>>>     * ???Ext4 ??????
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> <http://www.zeuux.org/pub/zeuux-monthly-3-200803-ext4-introduction.pdf>
>>>>         
>>>>>     * ???
>>>>>           o Coly Li <http://www.mlxos.org/>?Linux ??????????
>>>>>             ?Ext4?ocfs2???????????OpenIPMI?YaST?????
>>>>>             ??SuSE Labs?? <http://en.opensuse.org/User:Colyli>???
>>>>>             ?Novell <http://www.novell.com/linux/>?
>>>>>     * ????Ext4??????Linux
>>>>>     * ???OpenSuse???
>>>>>     * ???2008?5?10??????14?00?17?00?
>>>>>     * ?????? ??? ?????? 15? ?????????
>>>>>       <http://wiki.woodpecker.org.cn/moin/MapSinaBus>?*?????20??
>>>>>       ???????15??????*
>>>>>     * ?????????????????????????????????
>>>>>       ??????????
>>>>>     * ????????138 1141 0476
>>>>>     * ???Coly Li <http://www.mlxos.org/>?OpenSuSe.org
>>>>>       <http://www.opensuse.org>?????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ???http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-salon.cn.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ???
>>>>> ????????
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> zeuux-universe mailing list
>>>>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
>>>>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>>>>>
>>>>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
>>>>> http://www.zeuux.org
>>>>>           
>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ???
>>>> Xia Qingran
>>>> qingran at zeuux.org
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> zeuux-universe mailing list
>>>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
>>>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>>>>
>>>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
>>>> http://www.zeuux.org
>>>>         
>>> --
>>> Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com
>>>
>>> My Blog: http://hamobai.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> zeuux-universe mailing list
>>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
>>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>>>
>>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
>>> http://www.zeuux.org
>>>       
>>
>>
>> --
>>                             ?
>> ??
>>
>> ???
>>
>> "??????"????????????????????????????
>>
>> GTALK:arthur5933 at gmail.com <GTALK%3Aarthur5933 at gmail.com>
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080506/eb84412e/attachment-0001.html 

From bill at zeuux.org  Tue May  6 16:11:12 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 16:11:12 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?W0NQeVVHOjQ5MjU3XSBbRlddIOWFs+S6jg==?=
 =?utf-8?b?6Kej6K+7R05VIEdQTCB2ZXJzaW9uIDPnmoTmlofnq6A=?=
In-Reply-To: <5fdc2ee10805052338s630410g8266246ae81cafc7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48158923.2060002@zeuux.org>	
	<9dad9f0a0804280137g7c89413am76b4a17d7f56eaac@mail.gmail.com>	
	<481F4836.2070902@delphij.net> <481FCECC.80904@zeuux.org>	
	<15ef8d370805052056y71357273pfdd136aaa3f61f07@mail.gmail.com>
	<5fdc2ee10805052338s630410g8266246ae81cafc7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482012A0.7030504@zeuux.org>


>>> ??GPL???????????????"??"????????
>>>       
????????????Linux?????FSF?Linux??????????? 
?GNU GPL version 3???????????????GNU???????V3?? 
????????????

??Linux??????????????????????????????? 
????????????

>   

From zhangweiwu at realss.com  Wed May  7 14:20:07 2008
From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 14:20:07 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5aW95YOP5pyJ5LiN5bCR55qE6Z2e6Ieq55Sx?=
 =?utf-8?b?6L2v5Lu25a+5bGludXjlhY3otLnvvIzlr7l3aW5kb3dz5pS26LS55p2l552A?=
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOm77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <4820EA19.0001B4.22531@bj163app5.163.com>
References: <4820EA19.0001B4.22531@bj163app5.163.com>
Message-ID: <48214A17.3040404@realss.com>

?????????????

??ISV????????????????Linux??????????

   1. ?????????????????????????????????
      ??????????????????????
   2. ?????????????????????????????????
      ?Windows???????????????
   3. ?????????????????????????????????
      ??????????????????????????Linux????
      ????????????????????bug???????????
      ????????????????????????????????
      ???????Windows???????????
   4. ?????????????????????????????????
      ????????????Linux?????????????????
      Linux??????????????????????????????
      ???


?RAR????????Linux?????

????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
?????????Linux?????????????????????????
?????????

fros wrote:
> ??????mysql?realbasic??????????linux????????windows??????
>
> ????????
>
> :)
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org


-- 
Real Softservice

Huateng Tower, Unit 1788
Jia 302 3rd area of Jinsong, Chao Yang

Tel: +86 (10) 8773 0650 ext 603
Mobile: 135 9950 2413
http://www.realss.com


From bill at zeuux.org  Wed May  7 18:20:33 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 18:20:33 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?6ICB5aSp77yM5Y6f5p2l5pyJ6L+Z5LmI5aSa?=
 =?utf-8?b?6YKu5Lu25oiR5rKh5pyJ5pS25Yiw5ZWK4oCm4oCm?=
In-Reply-To: <48217E65.8090505@gmail.com>
References: <97be3a2f0805070249y15291732mb8de9942edd0e037@mail.gmail.com>
	<48217E65.8090505@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48218271.3080702@zeuux.org>

?gmail.com??????(zeuux.org??????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????

?gmail.com?????????????????

Lyman ??:
> Julien GONG Min (Gmail) ??:
>   
>> ?????????20??????????
>>
>> ????Google?????Zeuux?????????????????????????????? -?-
>>
>>     
> ???????????????????????????????????? 
> ?? gmail ?????
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080507/0b2f24d2/attachment.html 

From cheungtifan at gmail.com  Thu May  8 07:54:31 2008
From: cheungtifan at gmail.com (Alex Zhang)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 07:54:31 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?5Zue5aSN77yaIOWlveWDj+acieS4jeWwkQ==?=
	=?utf-8?b?55qE6Z2e6Ieq55Sx6L2v5Lu25a+5bGludXjlhY3otLnvvIzlr7l3aW5k?=
	=?utf-8?b?b3dz5pS26LS55p2l552A5ZOm77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <67414.80615.qm@web92208.mail.cnh.yahoo.com>
References: <67414.80615.qm@web92208.mail.cnh.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5fdc2ee10805071654t2d7462b1j13978007b3a2cc51@mail.gmail.com>

???????????????????
Alex

On 5/7/08, InfoHunter <infohunter at yahoo.cn> wrote:
> "?????"?????????
>
>  Regards,
>
> InfoHunter < http://www.InfoHunter.cn >
>
>
>
>
> ----- ???? ----
> ???? fros <fros at 163.com>
> ???? zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> ???? 2008/5/7(??), ??7:30:33
> ??? [zeuux-universe] ????????????linux????windows??????
>
> ??????mysql?realbasic??????????linux????????windows??????
>
> ????????
>
> :)
>
>
> ________________________________
>  ????????????????????
>
>
>       ___________________________________________________________
>  ????????????
> http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/


-- 
Notes:
1. Fell free to EMail me and I'll fell free to ignore you
2. Use English or STANDARD Chinese (Traditional preferred, but
Simplified is also acceptable), or I'll certainly ignore you.
3. Use plain text, because I've gotta no rich-text processing system.
4. CheungTiFan at gmail.com is the ONLY email account I'll check everyday.

From zhangweiwu at realss.com  Wed May  7 23:35:40 2008
From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 23:35:40 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?W3pldXV4LXByZXNzXSDor7flpKflrrbluK4=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Yqp5a6h6ZiF44CK5ZOy5oCd6Ieq55Sx6L2v5Lu25omL5YaM44CL?=
In-Reply-To: <481FD6BC.3040300@zeuux.org>
References: <481F03F2.1040208@zeuux.org> <200805061107249298992@hzbook.com>
	<481FD6BC.3040300@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <4821CC4C.4050001@realss.com>

????????????????????????????????????
????????????????Linux?????????????????
?????????????

????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
??????????????????????????learning curve???
????????????OpenOffice?Tex?????????filezilla?lftp
??????????jedit ?vim????????????lftp??????
?????filezilla??????????????????????????
????????????????????

????????????????????scribus??layout??????
????????????????????????????????????
???????????????tex???????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
?????????????????layout????????????????
???????VDP(Variable Data Publication)??????????????
??????????????????bug?????????????scribus
???????????????????????????Adobe InDesign??
???????????????????????????IT????????

????????????????????????????Pentaho Report?
????????????????????????????????????
??^_^???????

Bill Xu wrote:
>
>
> sheguang ??:
>> Dear all,
>>  
>> ???????????????????????1500~2000??
> ???
>
>>  
>> ??????????????
>>  
>> ???????????????mm)
>> 16? 185*260  206*283  210*297  210*285  185*230 (16??????????
>>  
>> 32? 130*185  140*206  148*210 140*210  115*185  
>> 64? 90*130  102*138  105*144  105*140
> ????????
>
>>  
>> ??????????????????
> ?????
>
>>  
>> ???
>>  
>> 2008-05-06
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> sheguang
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *????* Bill Xu
>> *?????* 2008-05-05  23:27:04
>> *????* Zeuux; zeuux-press
>> *???*
>> *???* [zeuux-press] ?????????????????
>> ????
>>  
>> ????????????????????
>> http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-press.cn.html
>>  
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ????????????????????????????4??????
>> ??? ?????????????????????????
>>  
>> ??????????
>> http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-handbook.cn.html
>>  
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ??????? ??????????????????????
>>  
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ?????????????????????????????????
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ???????????????????????????????????
>> ????????
>>  
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ? zeuux-press at zeuux.org???????????????????????
>> ??????????????????????????????????
>> ???? ???????????????
>>  
>>  
>> happy hacking!
>>  
>> ???
>> ???????? 


-- 
Real Softservice

Huateng Tower, Unit 1788
Jia 302 3rd area of Jinsong, Chao Yang

Tel: +86 (10) 8773 0650 ext 603
Mobile: 135 9950 2413
http://www.realss.com



From zhangweiwu at realss.com  Wed May  7 23:39:32 2008
From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 23:39:32 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>

Xia Qingran wrote:
> ??6??????????????????? :D
>   
????????????????????????????????????
?^_^

??9???????????????


From qingran at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 11:38:04 2008
From: qingran at zeuux.org (Xia Qingran)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 11:38:04 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?gb2312?b?1dzLvMmzwfqjrbXaNMbao60yMDA4xOo11MIx?=
 =?gb2312?b?MMjVo63QwsDLzfgg1vfM4qO6RXh0NCDOxLz+z7XNs73pydw=?=
In-Reply-To: <55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>	
	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4822759C.6060005@zeuux.org>

Hamo wrote:
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
>   
????????????http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-
salon.cn.html????
http://www.zeuux.org/pub/zeuux-monthly-3-200803-ext4-introduction.pdf
> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
>   
>> Xia Qingran wrote:
>>     
>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>
>>>       
>> ????????????????????????????????????
>> ?^_^
>>
>> ??9???????????????
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> zeuux-universe mailing list
>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>>
>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
>> http://www.zeuux.org
>>     
>
>   


-- 
???
Xia Qingran
qingran at zeuux.org


From qingran at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 11:38:53 2008
From: qingran at zeuux.org (Xia Qingran)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 11:38:53 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
Message-ID: <482275CD.3010300@zeuux.org>

Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> Xia Qingran wrote:
>   
>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>   
>>     
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ?^_^
>   
?????????????????? :-)
> ??9???????????????
>
>
>   


-- 
???
Xia Qingran
qingran at zeuux.org


From bill at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 14:13:13 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:13:13 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?W3pldXV4LXByZXNzXSDor7flpKflrrbluK4=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Yqp5a6h6ZiF44CK5ZOy5oCd6Ieq55Sx6L2v5Lu25omL5YaM44CL?=
In-Reply-To: <4821CC4C.4050001@realss.com>
References: <481F03F2.1040208@zeuux.org> <200805061107249298992@hzbook.com>
	<481FD6BC.3040300@zeuux.org> <4821CC4C.4050001@realss.com>
Message-ID: <482299F9.6000803@zeuux.org>


> ????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????Linux?????????????????
> ?????????????
>   
????????????????????????????????????? 
?????????????????

????????????????????????????????????? 
???????????????????????????????????? 
???????????

??????????????????????????????????????

Weiwu???????????????Weiwu???????????????? 
???????????????????


???

> ????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ??????????????????????????learning curve???
> ????????????OpenOffice?Tex?????????filezilla?lftp
> ??????????jedit ?vim????????????lftp??????
> ?????filezilla??????????????????????????
> ????????????????????
>
> ????????????????????scribus??layout??????
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ???????????????tex???????????????????
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ?????????????????layout????????????????
> ???????VDP(Variable Data Publication)??????????????
> ??????????????????bug?????????????scribus
> ???????????????????????????Adobe InDesign??
> ???????????????????????????IT????????
>
> ????????????????????????????Pentaho Report?
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ??^_^???????
>
> Bill Xu wrote:
>   
>> sheguang ??:
>>     
>>> Dear all,
>>>  
>>> ???????????????????????1500~2000??
>>>       
>> ???
>>
>>     
>>>  
>>> ??????????????
>>>  
>>> ???????????????mm)
>>> 16? 185*260  206*283  210*297  210*285  185*230 (16??????????
>>>  
>>> 32? 130*185  140*206  148*210 140*210  115*185  
>>> 64? 90*130  102*138  105*144  105*140
>>>       
>> ????????
>>
>>     
>>>  
>>> ??????????????????
>>>       
>> ?????
>>
>>     
>>>  
>>> ???
>>>  
>>> 2008-05-06
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> sheguang
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *????* Bill Xu
>>> *?????* 2008-05-05  23:27:04
>>> *????* Zeuux; zeuux-press
>>> *???*
>>> *???* [zeuux-press] ?????????????????
>>> ????
>>>  
>>> ????????????????????
>>> http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-press.cn.html
>>>  
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ????????????????????????????4??????
>>> ??? ?????????????????????????
>>>  
>>> ??????????
>>> http://www.zeuux.org/community/zeuux-handbook.cn.html
>>>  
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ??????? ??????????????????????
>>>  
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ?????????????????????????????????
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ???????????????????????????????????
>>> ????????
>>>  
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ? zeuux-press at zeuux.org???????????????????????
>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>> ???? ???????????????
>>>  
>>>  
>>> happy hacking!
>>>  
>>> ???
>>> ???????? 
>>>       
>
>
>   
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080508/e5bc59f1/attachment.html 

From bill at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 14:16:50 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:16:50 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org>
	<481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org>



Hamo ??:
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
>   
????qingran?????????????????????


> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
>   
>> Xia Qingran wrote:
>>     
>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>
>>>       
>> ????????????????????????????????????
>> ?^_^
>>
>> ??9???????????????
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> zeuux-universe mailing list
>> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
>> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>>
>> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
>> http://www.zeuux.org
>>     
>
>   
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080508/074b248d/attachment.html 

From bill at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 14:21:35 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:21:35 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <b791204d0805072059i770c03c5ycdc045859d46b0d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org>
	<481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
	<482275CD.3010300@zeuux.org>
	<b791204d0805072059i770c03c5ycdc045859d46b0d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48229BEF.10605@zeuux.org>



chifeng ??:
> ???????????pdf?????????????????????????????:(
>   
?????????????????????
> 2008/5/8 Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org>:
>   
>> Zhang Weiwu wrote:
>>  > Xia Qingran wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  > ????????????????????????????????????
>>  > ?^_^
>>  >
>>  ?????????????"??"? :-)
>>  > ??9???????????????
>>
>>     
>>  >
>>  >
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  ???
>>  Xia Qingran
>>  qingran at zeuux.org
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> zeuux-universe mailing list
>>  zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
>>  http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>>
>>  ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
>>  http://www.zeuux.org
>>     
>
>
>
>   
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080508/80cd8b38/attachment-0001.html 

From colyli at gmail.com  Thu May  8 14:38:27 2008
From: colyli at gmail.com (Coly Li)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:38:27 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org>	<481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <48229FE3.3050504@gmail.com>



Bill Xu wrote:
> 
> 
> Hamo ??:
>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>   

??????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????????


> ????qingran?????????????????????
> 
> 
>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
>>>     
>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> ????????????????????????????????????
>>> ?^_^
>>>
>>> ??9???????????????
>>>

-- 
Thanks

Coly

From Alex.Peng at Sun.COM  Thu May  8 14:27:18 2008
From: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM (Jian-xiang Alex Peng)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:27:18 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <48229FE3.3050504@gmail.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org> <48229FE3.3050504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48229D46.8040802@sun.com>

Coly Li ??:
> Bill Xu wrote:
>   
>> Hamo ??:
>>     
>>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>>   
>>>       
>
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> ???????????????????????
>   

???dtrace??call stack  :)
???demo??

-Alex



>
>   
>> ????qingran?????????????????????
>>
>>
>>     
>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> ????????????????????????????????????
>>>> ?^_^
>>>>
>>>> ??9???????????????
>>>>
>>>>         
>
>   


From colyli at gmail.com  Thu May  8 14:59:30 2008
From: colyli at gmail.com (Coly Li)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:59:30 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <48229D46.8040802@sun.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org> <48229FE3.3050504@gmail.com>
	<48229D46.8040802@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4822A4D2.9050805@gmail.com>



Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> Coly Li ??:
>> Bill Xu wrote:
>>  
>>> Hamo ??:
>>>    
>>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>>> ????????????????
>>>>         
>>
>> ???????????????????????????????????
>> ???????????????
>> ???????????????????????
>>   
> 
> ???dtrace??call stack  :)
> ???demo??
??demo?????????demo??????????????????????????????
????????????????7???????????????????????????????ext4
???????


> 
>>
>>  
>>> ????qingran?????????????????????
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 
>>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
>>>>> ???
>>>>> ?^_^
>>>>>
>>>>> ??9???????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>
>>   
> 
> 

-- 
Thanks

Coly

From Alex.Peng at Sun.COM  Thu May  8 14:51:39 2008
From: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM (Jian-xiang Alex Peng)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:51:39 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <4822A4D2.9050805@gmail.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org> <48229FE3.3050504@gmail.com>
	<48229D46.8040802@sun.com> <4822A4D2.9050805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4822A2FB.8070104@sun.com>

Coly Li ??:
> Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
>   
>> Coly Li ??:
>>     
>>> Bill Xu wrote:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> Hamo ??:
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>>>> ????????????????
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> ???????????????????????????????????
>>> ???????????????
>>> ???????????????????????
>>>   
>>>       
>> ???dtrace??call stack  :)
>> ???demo??
>>     
> ??demo?????????demo??????????????????????????????
> ????????????????7???????????????????????????????ext4
> ???????
>   

??????code????qingran/bill?????????




>
>   
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> ????qingran?????????????????????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
>>>>>        
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
>>>>>> ???
>>>>>> ?^_^
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ??9???????????????
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>   
>>>       
>>     
>
>   


From colyli at gmail.com  Thu May  8 15:18:57 2008
From: colyli at gmail.com (Coly Li)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:18:57 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <4822A2FB.8070104@sun.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org> <481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>
	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>
	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org> <48229FE3.3050504@gmail.com>
	<48229D46.8040802@sun.com> <4822A4D2.9050805@gmail.com>
	<4822A2FB.8070104@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4822A961.2090606@gmail.com>



Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> Coly Li ??:
>> Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
>>  
>>> Coly Li ??:
>>>    
>>>> Bill Xu wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>      
>>>>> Hamo ??:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> ??????????????????????????????????
>>>>>> ????????????????
>>>>>>                   
>>>> ???????????????????????????????????
>>>> ???????????????
>>>> ???????????????????????
>>>>         
>>> ???dtrace??call stack  :)
>>> ???demo??
>>>     
>> ??demo?????????demo????????????????????
>> ??????????
>> ????????????????7??????????????????
>> ?????????????ext4
>> ???????
>>   
> 
> ??????code????qingran/bill?????????
Code????????????????????????????? ?????????????code???5
?????????????

>>>>      
>>>>> ????qingran?????????????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
>>>>>>> ???
>>>>>>> ?^_^
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ??9???????????????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     
>>>>         
>>>     
>>
>>   
> 
> 

-- 
Thanks

Coly

From bill at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 15:11:00 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:11:00 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <4822A2FB.8070104@sun.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org>
	<481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>	<48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org>
	<48229FE3.3050504@gmail.com>	<48229D46.8040802@sun.com>
	<4822A4D2.9050805@gmail.com> <4822A2FB.8070104@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4822A784.3030307@zeuux.org>


> ??????code????qingran/bill?????????
>   
????


From qingran at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 16:52:51 2008
From: qingran at zeuux.org (Xia Qingran)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 16:52:51 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?5ZOy5oCd5rKZ6b6Z77yN56ysNOacn++8jTIw?=
 =?utf-8?b?MDjlubQ15pyIMTDml6XvvI3mlrDmtarnvZEg5Li76aKY77yaRXh0NCDmloc=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Lu257O757uf5LuL57uN?=
In-Reply-To: <48229D46.8040802@sun.com>
References: <481586E7.8000505@zeuux.org>
	<481F2ED9.7050109@zeuux.org>	<4821CD34.2040701@realss.com>	<55b9903b0805071913m558428fbp367dfd64332ba8ab@mail.gmail.com>	<48229AD2.2010602@zeuux.org>
	<48229FE3.3050504@gmail.com> <48229D46.8040802@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4822BF63.5040000@zeuux.org>

Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> Coly Li ??:
>   
>> Bill Xu wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hamo ??:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>         
>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
>> ???????????????????????
>>   
>>     
>
> ???dtrace??call stack  :)
> ???demo??
>   
??????????????????????
??????????????? ???????????????????? 
??????????...
> -Alex
>
>
>
>   
>>   
>>     
>>> ????qingran?????????????????????
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>> ????????????????????????????????????
>>>>> ?^_^
>>>>>
>>>>> ??9???????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>   
>>     
>
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org


-- 
???
Xia Qingran
qingran at zeuux.org


From bill at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 17:51:42 2008
From: bill at zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 17:51:42 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?6L+Z5Liq6Zeu6aKY5oiR5Lus5Y+v6IO96ZyA?=
	=?utf-8?b?6KaB6YG/5YWN?=
In-Reply-To: <4822C9F4.6080606@zeuux.org>
References: <4822C9F4.6080606@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <4822CD2E.4050204@zeuux.org>

?????????

????????????zeuux-www at zeuux.org??CC?zeuux- 
universe at zeuux.org??????????????????????????

??????builder????????????????????????? 
builder?????????????????????? XHTML?CSS????? 
??????????

Xia Qingran ??:
> ?95%?????????CSS?
> http://jorux.com/archives/95-websites-of-china-need-to-rewrite-css/
>

From qingran at zeuux.org  Thu May  8 18:38:17 2008
From: qingran at zeuux.org (Xia Qingran)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 18:38:17 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] zeuux-universe Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14
In-Reply-To: <200805081825086098553@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.971.1210241513.796.zeuux-universe@zeuux.org>
	<200805081825086098553@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4822D819.4050201@zeuux.org>

??????????????Mailman???bug?

?????????Mailman???????????????????????

?????????

Daniel wrote:
> ????
> 2008-05-08
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Daniel
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *????* zeuux-universe-request at zeuux.org
> *?????* 2008-05-08 18:21:41
> *????* zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> *???*
> *???* zeuux-universe Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14
> Send zeuux-universe mailing list submissions to
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> zeuux-universe-request at zeuux.org
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> zeuux-universe-owner at zeuux.org
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of zeuux-universe digest..."
> Today's Topics:
> 1. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Coly Li)
> 2. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Jian-xiang Alex Peng)
> 3. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Coly Li)
> 4. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Jian-xiang Alex Peng)
> 5. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Coly Li)
> 6. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Bill Xu)
> 7. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Xia Qingran)
> 8. Re: ???????????? (Bill Xu)
> 9. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Jianjun Kong)
> 10. Re: ???????????? ( ?? )
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:38:27 +0800
> From: Coly Li <colyli at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> To: Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>
> Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> Message-ID: <48229FE3.3050504 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Bill Xu wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hamo ??:
> >> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> >>
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> ???????????????????????
> > ????qingran?????????????????????
> >
> >
> >> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> ????????????????????????????????????
> >>> ?^_^
> >>>
> >>> ??9???????????????
> >>>
> -- 
> Thanks
> Coly
> ------------------------------
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:27:18 +0800
> From: Jian-xiang Alex Peng <Alex.Peng at Sun.COM>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> To: colyli at gmail.com
> Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> Message-ID: <48229D46.8040802 at sun.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8
> Coly Li ??:
> > Bill Xu wrote:
> >
> >> Hamo ??:
> >>
> >>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> > ???????????????????????
> >
> ???dtrace??call stack :)
> ???demo??
> -Alex
> >
> >
> >> ????qingran?????????????????????
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> ????????????????????????????????????
> >>>> ?^_^
> >>>>
> >>>> ??9???????????????
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >
> ------------------------------
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:59:30 +0800
> From: Coly Li <colyli at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> To: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM
> Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> Message-ID: <4822A4D2.9050805 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> > Coly Li ??:
> >> Bill Xu wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hamo ??:
> >>>
> >>>> ??????????????????????????????????
> >>>> ????????????????
> >>>>
> >>
> >> ???????????????????????????????????
> >> ???????????????
> >> ???????????????????????
> >>
> >
> > ???dtrace??call stack :)
> > ???demo??
> ??demo?????????demo??????????????????????????????
> ????????????????7???????????????????????????????ext4
> ???????
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> ????qingran?????????????????????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
> >>>>> ???
> >>>>> ?^_^
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ??9???????????????
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> -- 
> Thanks
> Coly
> ------------------------------
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:51:39 +0800
> From: Jian-xiang Alex Peng <Alex.Peng at Sun.COM>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> To: colyli at gmail.com
> Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> Message-ID: <4822A2FB.8070104 at sun.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8
> Coly Li ??:
> > Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> >
> >> Coly Li ??:
> >>
> >>> Bill Xu wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hamo ??:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> ??????????????????????????????????
> >>>>> ????????????????
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> ???????????????????????????????????
> >>> ???????????????
> >>> ???????????????????????
> >>>
> >>>
> >> ???dtrace??call stack :)
> >> ???demo??
> >>
> > ??demo?????????demo??????????????????????????????
> > ????????????????7???????????????????????????????ext4
> > ???????
> >
> ??????code????qingran/bill?????????
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> ????qingran?????????????????????
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
> >>>>>> ???
> >>>>>> ?^_^
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ??9???????????????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> ------------------------------
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:18:57 +0800
> From: Coly Li <colyli at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> To: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM
> Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> Message-ID: <4822A961.2090606 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> > Coly Li ??:
> >> Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> >>
> >>> Coly Li ??:
> >>>
> >>>> Bill Xu wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hamo ??:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ??????????????????????????????????
> >>>>>> ????????????????
> >>>>>>
> >>>> ???????????????????????????????????
> >>>> ???????????????
> >>>> ???????????????????????
> >>>>
> >>> ???dtrace??call stack :)
> >>> ???demo??
> >>>
> >> ??demo?????????demo????????????????????
> >> ??????????
> >> ????????????????7??????????????????
> >> ?????????????ext4
> >> ???????
> >>
> >
> > ??????code????qingran/bill?????????
> Code????????????????????????????? ?????????????code???5
> ?????????????
> >>>>
> >>>>> ????qingran?????????????????????
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
> >>>>>>> ???
> >>>>>>> ?^_^
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ??9???????????????
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> -- 
> Thanks
> Coly
> ------------------------------
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:11:00 +0800
> From: Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> To: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM
> Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> Message-ID: <4822A784.3030307 at zeuux.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> > ??????code????qingran/bill?????????
> >
> ????
> ------------------------------
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 16:52:51 +0800
> From: Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> To: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM
> Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> Message-ID: <4822BF63.5040000 at zeuux.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> > Coly Li ??:
> >
> >> Bill Xu wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hamo ??:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> >> ???????????????????????
> >>
> >>
> >
> > ???dtrace??call stack :)
> > ???demo??
> >
> ??????????????????????
> ??????????????? ????????????????????
> ??????????...
> > -Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> ????qingran?????????????????????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> ????????????????????????????????????
> >>>>> ?^_^
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ??9???????????????
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> >
> > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > http://www.zeuux.org
> -- 
> ???
> Xia Qingran
> qingran at zeuux.org
> ------------------------------
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 17:51:42 +0800
> From: Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ????????????
> To: Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org>
> Cc: xiawu <xiawu at zeuux.org>, zeuux-www at zeuux.org, Zeuux
> <zeuux-universe at zeuux.org>
> Message-ID: <4822CD2E.4050204 at zeuux.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> ?????????
> ????????????zeuux-www at zeuux.org??CC?zeuux-
> universe at zeuux.org??????????????????????????
> ??????builder?????????????????????????
> builder?????????????????????? XHTML?CSS?????
> ??????????
> Xia Qingran ??:
> > ?95%?????????CSS?
> > http://jorux.com/archives/95-websites-of-china-need-to-rewrite-css/
> >
> ------------------------------
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:56:37 +0800
> From: Jianjun Kong <kongjianjun at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> To: Hamo <hamo.by at gmail.com>
> Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> Message-ID: <20080508095637.GB6875 at ubuntu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 09:05:12AM +0800, Hamo wrote:
> > ???????????????????ext4??????????????????????????
> ??????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????????????
> ????????????????????????linux???????????????????
> -- 
> | If you seems to know whatever, you will do nothing very well.
> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> | Jianjun Kong | www.kongove.cn
> | Xi'an Institute of Post & Telecommunications
> ------------------------------
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 18:21:13 +0800
> From: " ?? " <xia.wu.cn at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ????????????
> To: "Bill Xu" <bill at zeuux.org>
> Cc: zeuux-www at zeuux.org, Zeuux <zeuux-universe at zeuux.org>
> Message-ID:
> <a85bb34e0805080321p54cead97ie443ced194203830 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"
> 2008/5/8 Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>:
> > ?????????
> >
> > ????????????zeuux-www at zeuux.org??CC?zeuux-
> > universe at zeuux.org??????????????????????????
> >
> > ?????"builder"????????????????????????
> > builder?????????????????????? XHTML?CSS?????
> > ??????????
> ???????????learing css???????????????????
> >
> > Xia Qingran ??:
> > > "95%?????????CSS"
> > > http://jorux.com/archives/95-websites-of-china-need-to-rewrite-css/
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> >
> > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > http://www.zeuux.org
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL:
> http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080508/21132bdd/attachment.html
>
> ------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org
> End of zeuux-universe Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14
> *********************************************
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org


-- 
???
Xia Qingran
qingran at zeuux.org


From cheungtifan at gmail.com  Thu May  8 21:03:24 2008
From: cheungtifan at gmail.com (Alex Zhang)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 21:03:24 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] zeuux-universe Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14
In-Reply-To: <4822D819.4050201@zeuux.org>
References: <mailman.971.1210241513.796.zeuux-universe@zeuux.org>
	<200805081825086098553@gmail.com> <4822D819.4050201@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <5fdc2ee10805080603l3547f133p1915adc3e6d23bbb@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, Daniel
I've gotta this problem days ago.
Please unsubscribe it and re-subscribe it by changing the language to Chinese.
Hope I can help.
Alex

On 5/8/08, Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org> wrote:
> ??????????????Mailman???bug?
>
> ?????????Mailman???????????????????????
>
> ?????????
>
> Daniel wrote:
> > ????
> > 2008-05-08
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Daniel
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *????* zeuux-universe-request at zeuux.org
> > *?????* 2008-05-08 18:21:41
> > *????* zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > *???*
> > *???* zeuux-universe Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14
> > Send zeuux-universe mailing list submissions to
> > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > zeuux-universe-request at zeuux.org
> > You can reach the person managing the list at
> > zeuux-universe-owner at zeuux.org
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of zeuux-universe digest..."
> > Today's Topics:
> > 1. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Coly Li)
> > 2. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Jian-xiang Alex Peng)
> > 3. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Coly Li)
> > 4. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Jian-xiang Alex Peng)
> > 5. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Coly Li)
> > 6. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Bill Xu)
> > 7. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Xia Qingran)
> > 8. Re: ???????????? (Bill Xu)
> > 9. Re: ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ?????? (Jianjun Kong)
> > 10. Re: ???????????? ( ?? )
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:38:27 +0800
> > From: Coly Li <colyli at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> > To: Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>
> > Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > Message-ID: <48229FE3.3050504 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > Bill Xu wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hamo ??:
> > >> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> > >>
> > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> > ???????????????????????
> > > ????qingran?????????????????????
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> ????????????????????????????????????
> > >>> ?^_^
> > >>>
> > >>> ??9???????????????
> > >>>
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Coly
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:27:18 +0800
> > From: Jian-xiang Alex Peng <Alex.Peng at Sun.COM>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> > To: colyli at gmail.com
> > Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > Message-ID: <48229D46.8040802 at sun.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8
> > Coly Li ??:
> > > Bill Xu wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hamo ??:
> > >>
> > >>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> > > ???????????????????????
> > >
> > ???dtrace??call stack :)
> > ???demo??
> > -Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >> ????qingran?????????????????????
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> ????????????????????????????????????
> > >>>> ?^_^
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ??9???????????????
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:59:30 +0800
> > From: Coly Li <colyli at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> > To: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM
> > Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > Message-ID: <4822A4D2.9050805 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> > > Coly Li ??:
> > >> Bill Xu wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hamo ??:
> > >>>
> > >>>> ??????????????????????????????????
> > >>>> ????????????????
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >> ???????????????????????????????????
> > >> ???????????????
> > >> ???????????????????????
> > >>
> > >
> > > ???dtrace??call stack :)
> > > ???demo??
> > ??demo?????????demo??????????????????????????????
> > ????????????????7???????????????????????????????ext4
> > ???????
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> ????qingran?????????????????????
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
> > >>>>> ???
> > >>>>> ?^_^
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ??9???????????????
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Coly
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:51:39 +0800
> > From: Jian-xiang Alex Peng <Alex.Peng at Sun.COM>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> > To: colyli at gmail.com
> > Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > Message-ID: <4822A2FB.8070104 at sun.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8
> > Coly Li ??:
> > > Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> > >
> > >> Coly Li ??:
> > >>
> > >>> Bill Xu wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hamo ??:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> ??????????????????????????????????
> > >>>>> ????????????????
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>> ???????????????????????????????????
> > >>> ???????????????
> > >>> ???????????????????????
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> ???dtrace??call stack :)
> > >> ???demo??
> > >>
> > > ??demo?????????demo??????????????????????????????
> > > ????????????????7???????????????????????????????ext4
> > > ???????
> > >
> > ??????code????qingran/bill?????????
> > >
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> ????qingran?????????????????????
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
> > >>>>>> ???
> > >>>>>> ?^_^
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ??9???????????????
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:18:57 +0800
> > From: Coly Li <colyli at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> > To: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM
> > Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > Message-ID: <4822A961.2090606 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> > > Coly Li ??:
> > >> Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Coly Li ??:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Bill Xu wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hamo ??:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> ??????????????????????????????????
> > >>>>>> ????????????????
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> ???????????????????????????????????
> > >>>> ???????????????
> > >>>> ???????????????????????
> > >>>>
> > >>> ???dtrace??call stack :)
> > >>> ???demo??
> > >>>
> > >> ??demo?????????demo????????????????????
> > >> ??????????
> > >> ????????????????7??????????????????
> > >> ?????????????ext4
> > >> ???????
> > >>
> > >
> > > ??????code????qingran/bill?????????
> > Code????????????????????????????? ?????????????code???5
> > ?????????????
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> ????qingran?????????????????????
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ?????????????????????????????????
> > >>>>>>> ???
> > >>>>>>> ?^_^
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ??9???????????????
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Coly
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:11:00 +0800
> > From: Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> > To: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM
> > Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > Message-ID: <4822A784.3030307 at zeuux.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> > > ??????code????qingran/bill?????????
> > >
> > ????
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 16:52:51 +0800
> > From: Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> > To: Alex.Peng at Sun.COM
> > Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > Message-ID: <4822BF63.5040000 at zeuux.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> > Jian-xiang Alex Peng wrote:
> > > Coly Li ??:
> > >
> > >> Bill Xu wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hamo ??:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> > >> ???????????????????????
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > ???dtrace??call stack :)
> > > ???demo??
> > >
> > ??????????????????????
> > ??????????????? ????????????????????
> > ??????????...
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> ????qingran?????????????????????
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 5/7/08, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Xia Qingran wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> ??6??????????????????? :D
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> ????????????????????????????????????
> > >>>>> ?^_^
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ??9???????????????
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> > >
> > > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > > http://www.zeuux.org
> > --
> > ???
> > Xia Qingran
> > qingran at zeuux.org
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 17:51:42 +0800
> > From: Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ????????????
> > To: Xia Qingran <qingran at zeuux.org>
> > Cc: xiawu <xiawu at zeuux.org>, zeuux-www at zeuux.org, Zeuux
> > <zeuux-universe at zeuux.org>
> > Message-ID: <4822CD2E.4050204 at zeuux.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> > ?????????
> > ????????????zeuux-www at zeuux.org??CC?zeuux-
> > universe at zeuux.org??????????????????????????
> > ??????builder?????????????????????????
> > builder?????????????????????? XHTML?CSS?????
> > ??????????
> > Xia Qingran ??:
> > > ?95%?????????CSS?
> > > http://jorux.com/archives/95-websites-of-china-need-to-rewrite-css/
> > >
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:56:37 +0800
> > From: Jianjun Kong <kongjianjun at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ??????4??2008?5?10????? ???Ext4 ??????
> > To: Hamo <hamo.by at gmail.com>
> > Cc: zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > Message-ID: <20080508095637.GB6875 at ubuntu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 09:05:12AM +0800, Hamo wrote:
> > > ???????????????????ext4??????????????????????????
> > ??????????????????????????????????????
> > ????????????????????????
> > ????????????????????????linux???????????????????
> > --
> > | If you seems to know whatever, you will do nothing very well.
> > | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > | Jianjun Kong | www.kongove.cn
> > | Xi'an Institute of Post & Telecommunications
> > ------------------------------
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 18:21:13 +0800
> > From: " ?? " <xia.wu.cn at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe] ????????????
> > To: "Bill Xu" <bill at zeuux.org>
> > Cc: zeuux-www at zeuux.org, Zeuux <zeuux-universe at zeuux.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <a85bb34e0805080321p54cead97ie443ced194203830 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"
> > 2008/5/8 Bill Xu <bill at zeuux.org>:
> > > ?????????
> > >
> > > ????????????zeuux-www at zeuux.org??CC?zeuux-
> > > universe at zeuux.org??????????????????????????
> > >
> > > ?????"builder"????????????????????????
> > > builder?????????????????????? XHTML?CSS?????
> > > ??????????
> > ???????????learing css???????????????????
> > >
> > > Xia Qingran ??:
> > > > "95%?????????CSS"
> > > > http://jorux.com/archives/95-websites-of-china-need-to-rewrite-css/
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> > >
> > > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > > http://www.zeuux.org
> > -------------- next part --------------
> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> > URL:
> >
> http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080508/21132bdd/attachment.html
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > _______________________________________________
> > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > http://www.zeuux.org
> > End of zeuux-universe Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14
> > *********************************************
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > zeuux-universe mailing list
> > zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> > http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
> >
> > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> > http://www.zeuux.org
>
>
> --
> ???
> Xia Qingran
> qingran at zeuux.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe at zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org


-- 
Notes:
1. Fell free to EMail me and I'll fell free to ignore you
2. Use English or STANDARD Chinese (Traditional preferred, but
Simplified is also acceptable), or I'll certainly ignore you.
3. Use plain text, because I've gotta no rich-text processing system.
4. CheungTiFan at gmail.com is the ONLY email account I'll check everyday.

From zhangweiwu at realss.com  Mon May 12 18:30:44 2008
From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:30:44 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
 =?utf-8?b?W3pldXV4LXByZXNzXSDor7flpKflrrbluK4=?=
 =?utf-8?b?5Yqp5a6h6ZiF44CK5ZOy5oCd6Ieq55Sx6L2v5Lu25omL5YaM44CL?=
In-Reply-To: <4821CC4C.4050001@realss.com>
References: <481F03F2.1040208@zeuux.org>
	<200805061107249298992@hzbook.com>	<481FD6BC.3040300@zeuux.org>
	<4821CC4C.4050001@realss.com>
Message-ID: <48281C54.6010004@realss.com>

Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ????????????????????????????????????
> ??????????????????????????learning curve???
> ????????????OpenOffice?Tex?????????filezilla?lftp
> ??????????jedit ?vim????????????lftp??????
> ?????filezilla??????????????????????????
> ????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
Ubuntu?????????Windows????????????????????
?????SQL?????????????????????????????
???????????????????????????? jedit?????
?gedit???????crash??????vim???????????????
??????????????vim????????????????vim???
??????gedit???????????????????????????
?????????jedit???????JDK?SCIM????????bug???
????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????

   1. ??????????????
   2. ???????????????



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [thelist] Developing in Linux
Date: 	Mon, 12 May 2008 18:02:37 +0800
From: 	Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu at realss.com>
Reply-To: 	thelist at lists.evolt.org <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
To: 	thelist at lists.evolt.org <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
References: 	<1210528215.6398.4.camel at ubuntu-hp>
<20080512033023.GA23519 at hank.org> <1210577724.6287.2.camel at ubuntu-hp>



Fred Jones wrote:
>> Those points seem rather minor.  I can think of a lot more painful
>> things about using Linux.
>>     
>
> LOL
>
> All told I think I am not ready for Linux right now. Or it's not ready
> for me.
>
>   

Hi. Just before you leave Ubuntu for Windows: maybe you would be
interested to use Jedit on Windows? JEDIT is free software and has a lot
of plug-ins. As an editor for developer, it should be able to handle big
files easier. GEdit was like notepad in Windows as JEDIT is like
UltraEdit in Windows. They are not targeting the same group of users.

If you mostly use cross-platform software, it should be easy to decide
to switch to Ubuntu any time in the future when you want to. One of my
friend uses Thunderbird for email, Mozilla for browsing and Eclipse for
development, than his switch to Linux was quite smooth and easy, every
software I use was like it was before, there are only a few
Linux-specific problems. For him the major reason to switch away from
Windows is dis-appreciation of a lot of MS' doings on non-technical
level (e.g. installing XPS printer for everybody and report there are no
known software to open PDF document format in their online library).




From bill在zeuux.org  Wed May 14 13:53:15 2008
From: bill在zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:53:15 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?utf-8?b?W+acgOaWsOaWh+eroOaOqOiNkO+8veiHqg==?=
 =?utf-8?b?55Sx6L2v5Lu26L+Q5Yqo77ya5LuO5Yib5LiW57qq5YiwR05VIEdQTCB2ZXJz?=
 =?utf-8?q?ion_2?=
Message-ID: <482A7E4B.6000307@zeuux.org>

大家好，

我和Richard Stallman以对话的形式写了一篇关于自由软件运动早期历史的文章： 
《自由软件运动：从创世纪到GNU GPL version 2》

中文版：
http://www.zeuux.org/philosophy/billxu-rms-fsm-ancient-to-gplv2.cn.html

英文版：
http://www.zeuux.org/philosophy/billxu-rms-fsm-ancient-to-gplv2.html

本文全面阐述了自由软件运动的历史，时间跨度从197X年，一直到2007年GNU GPL 
v3发布之前。披露了很多国内朋友并不了解历史，有助于大家更加全面理解自由软 
件运动。

欢迎大家在保持文章的完整性的情况下转载，并注明文章的出处，普及自由软件思想。

happy hacking

徐继哲
哲思自由软件社区


From zoom.quiet在gmail.com  Thu May 15 08:44:22 2008
From: zoom.quiet在gmail.com (Zoom.Quiet)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:44:22 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?d2luZG93czIwMDjliZHmjIdsaW51eOS4kw==?=
	=?utf-8?b?5bGe6auY5Zyw55qE6IOM5ZCO?=
In-Reply-To: <889df83e0805140933l21661b2bl8416070fdb884cb2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <889df83e0805140933l21661b2bl8416070fdb884cb2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9dad9f0a0805141744l76d839b3i5d2bcb06d5cd0d7f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/5/15 blackjack xu <blackjack.xu在gmail.com>:
> 作者 ： 上海WWW.17LAMP.NET开源社区 Andrew
是哪，推动Linux 的话，不拉上M$ 说不过去的，
就和美国人的国粹，骂約翰牛类似，
BS M＄ 已经是文化了...

>
> 以下是网络上一段win2008介绍：
>
> Windows Server 2008的前身是Longhorn
> Server，变化比较大就是网络内核栈。在网络传输性能上有大幅提高，同时拥有更人性化的管理界面-服务器管理器和PowerShell脚本支持。与
> Windows Server 2003的IIS6相比Win2008的IIS7在处理PHP上有了显著的提高，同时拥有Windows
> Vista操作系统的Aero主题。在应用服务器上，用户可以通过选择核心安装方式以Console为主的管理方式，让系统不加载GUI环境下运行，让服
> 务器更稳定安全，全新的虚拟化技术让你的分布式应用更节省企业开支。
>
> 基于网站架构技术的角度讲，win2008的改进弥补一直以来为人所诟病的IIS＋PHP的尴尬组合，PHP性能的提高就是直接向
> 传统的LAMP(Linux+Apache+MySQL+Php/Python)黄金架构的冲击。虽然说构建LAMP仍然具有一次性的搭设成本价格优势，
> 但是如果算上人员维护成本，显然竞争力就要下降一截。在长期运行服务器或者频繁配置服务器的情况下，LAMP的成本优势其实没有想象中的那么乐观。
>
> Readmore : http://www.17lamp.net/blog/editor/viewpoint/20080515001531
> --
> 开源需要新思路：http://www.17lamp.net/blog/blackjack/viewpoint/2007101013
>
> blog:http://www.17lamp.net/blog/blackjack



-- 
'''过程改进乃是开始催生可促生靠谱的人的组织!
PI keeps evolving organizations which promoting people be good!
'''http://zoomquiet.org
Pls. usage OOo to replace M$ Office. http://zh.openoffice.org
Pls. usage 7-zip to replace WinRAR/WinZip. http://7-zip.org
You can get the truely Freedom 4 software.

From bill在zeuux.org  Thu May 15 21:35:25 2008
From: bill在zeuux.org (Bill Xu)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:35:25 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?utf-8?b?MjAwOOW5tOWTsuaAneiHqueUsei9r+S7tg==?=
 =?utf-8?q?=E5=B3=B0=E4=BC=9A_/_ZEUUX_Free_Software_Summit_2008?=
Message-ID: <482C3C1D.5030008@zeuux.org>

*［2008年5月15日，中国北京，哲思自由软件社区］*什么是自由软件？自由软件 
强调的是用户运行、学习、修改和发行软件的自由，而不是价格。具体来讲，自由 
软件赋予了用户如下4个自由度：

   0. 出于任何目的，运行软件的自由。
   1. 学习软件如何工作，以及为了满足自己的需要修改软件的自由。（显然，这
      个自由度的前提是能够访问软件的源代码）
   2. 为了帮助你的邻居，将软件拷贝给他的自由。
   3. 为了能够让整个社团受益，公开发行改进之后的软件的自由。（显然，这个
      自由度的前提是能够访问软件的源代码）

Richard Stallman在1983年发起了自由软件运动。经过25年的发展，自由软件已经 
在各个领域取得了巨大的成功。在我们的日常生活和工作中，自由软件已经成为不 
可或缺的一部分。

为了帮助中国自由软件社区，甚至整个IT产业充分理解自由软件，哲思自由软件社 
区将于2008年5月24日－5月31日在北京、上海和西安三地分别举办“2008年哲思自 
由软件峰会”。参加此次峰会的演讲嘉宾有：Richard Stallman、倪光南、霍亮、 
王星耀、Akira Urushibata、李欣、徐继哲等。峰会的赞助商是SUN，Intel和新浪 
网；峰会的合作伙伴是：自由软件基金会、GNU工程、互动在线、华章公司、 
TechWeb、China-Pub、CSDN、清华大学、Unix-Center.net、ChinaUnix.net等。

哲思自由软件峰会是开放式活动，参会者不需提前报名，免费参加。欢迎大家踊跃 
参加哲思自由软件峰会！

关于哲思自由软件峰会的详细信息请访问哲思自由软件社区网站：http: 
//www.zeuux.org。

http://www.zeuux.org/campaign/zeuux-freedom-summit-2008.cn.html

徐继哲
哲思自由软件社区

*[Beijing, China May 15, 2008 ZEUUX Free Software Community]* What is 
Free Software? Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, 
copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. More 
precisely, it refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the 
software:

   0. The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
   1. The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your
      needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for
      this.
   2. The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
      (freedom 2).
   3. The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements
      to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3).
      Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

Richard Stallman launched the Free Software Movement in 1983. Through 
the evolution of 25 years, Free Software has achieved great the 
successes in many fields and has been an essential part of our living 
and working.

To help China Free Software community or even the whole IT industry to 
understand what is Free Software, ZEUUX Free Software Community will 
hold the ZEUUX Free Software Summit 2008 in Beijing, Shanghai and Xi'an 
from May 24 to May 31, 2008. Speakers attending this summit are Richard 
Stallman, Ni Guangnan, Leon Huo, Sin-Yaw Wang, Akira Urushibata, Li Xin, 
Bill Xu and so on. The patrons of the summit are Sun Mirosystem and 
Intel, and SINA.com. The cooperators are Free Software Foundation, GNU 
Project, Hoodong.com, HZ Books, Techweb.com.cn, China-Pub.com, CSDN.net, 
Tsinghua University, Unix-Center.net, ChinaUnix.net and so on.

ZEUUX Free Software Summit is an open conference. It is no need to sign 
up and anyone can join it without fees. It's pleased for anyone to join 
the ZEUUX Free Software Summit 2008.

For more details of ZEUUX Free Software Summit 2008, please refer to the 
website of ZEUUX Free Software Community, http://www.zeuux.org.

http://www.zeuux.org/campaign/zeuux-freedom-summit-2008.html

Bill Xu
ZEUUX Free Software Community


-------------- 下一部分 --------------
一个HTML附件被移除...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080515/2008c833/attachment.html 

From jiang.du在live.com  Thu May 15 22:23:32 2008
From: jiang.du在live.com (Jiang Du)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:23:32 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?gb2312?b?emV1dXgtdW5pdmVyc2Ug1arSqiwgvu0gOSwg?=
	=?gb2312?b?t6KyvCAyMQ==?=
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1210824000.44006.zeuux-universe@zeuux.org>
References: <mailman.1.1210824000.44006.zeuux-universe@zeuux.org>
Message-ID: <BAY111-W5189C489F54F3BA85B30ACF7C90@phx.gbl>


�����治�����������������������tf8������ailinglist����dz��ã����������> From: zeuux-universe-request在zeuux.org> Subject: zeuux-universe ժҪ, ��, ���� 21> To: zeuux-universe在zeuux.org> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:00:00 +0800> > �� zeuux-universe ������������д���zeuux-universe在zeuux.org> > Ҫ�����˶��������Է������> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe> ����� zeuux-universe-request在zeuux.org> ��������help'��ʼ���> > �����������> zeuux-universe-owner在zeuux.org> �ϵ����б������> > ���������������ı������� "Re:> Contents of zeuux-universe digest..."����> > > �����:> > 1. [����������������Ӵ���͵�GNU> GPL version 2 (Bill Xu)> 2. Re: windows2008��ָlinuxר��ߵصı���oom.Quiet)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:53:15 +0800> From: Bill Xu <bill在zeuux.org>> Subject: [zeuux-universe]> [����������������Ӵ���͵�GNU GPL> version 2> To: Zeuux <zeuux-universe在zeuux.org>> Cc: �ӭϼ <meng在csdn.net>> Message-ID: <482A7E4B.6000307在zeuux.org>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > ��ã�> > ���ichard Stallman��Ի�����д�һƪ������������ʷ���£� > �������������Ӵ���͵�GNU GPL version 2��> > ���棺> http://www.zeuux.org/philosophy/billxu-rms-fsm-ancient-to-gplv2.cn.html> > Ӣ��棺> http://www.zeuux.org/philosophy/billxu-rms-fsm-ancient-to-gplv2.html> > ���ȫ��������������ʱ���ȴ�97X���һֱ��2007�GNU GPL > v3����֮ǰ���¶��ܶ�����������ʷ������������� > �������> > ��ӭ��ڱ����µ�������ת�����ע����ij����������˼���> > happy hacking> > ���� �˼�������> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:44:22 +0800> From: Zoom.Quiet <zoom.quiet在gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [zeuux-universe]> windows2008��ָlinuxר��ߵصı���o: "blackjack xu" <blackjack.xu在gmail.com>> Cc: 17LAMP在googlegroups.com, Zeuux <zeuux-universe在zeuux.org>> Message-ID:> <9dad9f0a0805141744l76d839b3i5d2bcb06d5cd0d7f在mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8> > 2008/5/15 blackjack xu <blackjack.xu在gmail.com>:> > �� �� ���WWW.17LAMP.NET��Դ�� Andrew> �������Linux �Ļ�������M$ ˵�����> �ͺ�������s��ţ����> BS M��Ѿ������...> > >> > ������һ��in2008����> >> > Windows Server 2008�����Longhorn> > Server���仯�Ƚϴ�����������������������ͬʱӵ�����Ĺ���-���������owerShell�ű�֧�֡��> > Windows Server 2003��IS6���in2008��IS7����PHP����������ͬʱӵ�Windows> > Vista������ero�����Ӧ������������������İ�װ��ʽ�ConsoleΪ��Ĺ����ʽ���ϵͳ�����UI������������> > �����ȫ��ȫ������������ķֲ�ʽӦ�����֧��> >> > ��վ�ܹ�����ĽǶȽ���win2008�ĸĽ�һֱ��Ϊ��ڸ����IS��PHP�������PHP������������ ��ͳ��AMP(Linux+Apache+MySQL+Php/Python)�ƽ���ij����Ȼ˵����LAMP�Ȼ������ԵĴ��ɱ��۸�ƣ�> > �������Աά���ɱ����Ȼ����������һ�ء����������������������������LAMP�ijɱ����ʵû����������ۡ�> >> > Readmore : http://www.17lamp.net/blog/editor/viewpoint/20080515001531> > --> > ��Դ�Ҫ�˼·��http://www.17lamp.net/blog/blackjack/viewpoint/2007101013> >> > blog:http://www.17lamp.net/blog/blackjack> > > > -- > '''�����ʼ���������˵��!> PI keeps evolving organizations which promoting people be good!> '''http://zoomquiet.org> Pls. usage OOo to replace M$ Office. http://zh.openoffice.org> Pls. usage 7-zip to replace WinRAR/WinZip. http://7-zip.org> You can get the truely Freedom 4 software.> > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> zeuux-universe mailing list> zeuux-universe在zeuux.org> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe> > ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!> http://www.zeuux.org> > ��zeuux-universe ժҪ, ��, ���� 21> *********************************************
_________________________________________________________________
Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy!
http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us
-------------- 下一部分 --------------
һ��L���������RL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080515/21d31742/attachment.html 

From zoom.quiet在gmail.com  Sun May 18 11:53:04 2008
From: zoom.quiet在gmail.com (Zoom.Quiet)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:53:04 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiBbQ1BlWF0g6Kqw6KaB55yL5L2g55qE?=
	=?utf-8?b?56iL5byP56K877yf?=
In-Reply-To: <0016e645b798376b06044d6d96e9@google.com>
References: <0016e645b798376b06044d6d96e9@google.com>
Message-ID: <9dad9f0a0805172053q5da7b8f3s92a5f4690a7001ea@mail.gmail.com>

深层的原因是这样的嘛？
社区的成员对自个儿的代码是这么不经意的嘛？

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: pnt <zhengy在gmail.com>
Date: 2008/5/17
Subject: [CPeX] 誰要看你的程式碼？
To: mindex在googlegroups.com






Sent to you by pnt via Google Reader:


誰要看你的程式碼？<http://tetralet.luna.com.tw/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=202&blogId=1>
via 今天的 Tetralet 又在唧唧喳喳了 <http://tetralet.luna.com.tw/index.php?blogId=1> by
Tetralet on 5/17/08

最近一個很轟動的新聞：Debian 的 Packager 總愛打些怪怪的 patch 已不是新聞，但這次卻闖了大禍。Debian 的
openssl套件最近爆出了一個大漏洞，Debian（約在
2006 年 5 月）不知為何 <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363516>把
openssl 套件裡用來產生亂數種子的程式碼給移除掉了，導致用這些版本的 openssl 所產生的 SSH
金鑰有一定的規則可循，非常容易被暴力攻擊所破解。如果您的
SSH 金鑰是使用以下的作業系統所產生的：

   -

   Debian 4.0 (etch)
   -

   Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)
   -

   Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy)
   -

   Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy)

那麼就很可能會受到這個漏洞的影響。您可以利用 sudo ssh-vulnkey -a 指令來檢查您系統裡所有的 SSH 金鑰， 若測試結果為
COMPROMISED，請立即昇級您的 libopenssl 套件並使用 ssh-keygen 指令重新產生一個新的金鑰。若您的 SSH 伺服器是使用
SSH 金鑰來做認証<http://tetralet.luna.com.tw/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=59&blogId=1>的，請務必同時更新您的
authorized_keys 檔案以免到時無法登入您的 SSH Server。

而系統中其它會使用到 openssl 來產生金鑰的套件，像是 ipopd-openssl、postfix-tls、uw-imapd 及
apache-openssl 等等，也請同時更新這些套件所使用的 SSL 金鑰。請參考 [SECURITY] [DSA 1571-1] New
openopenssl packages fix predictable random number
generator<http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2008/msg00152.html>或您系統中的
/usr/share/doc/openssh-server/README.compromised-keys.gz 以取得更多的資訊。

openssl/openssh 應該算是一個系統裡最最基本的元件了。敝人安裝 Debian GNU/Linux 後第一件事就是把 SSH
Server裝起來，然後遠端操控。加上 Debian 本身是極受歡迎的的 GNU/Linux 發行版，基於 Debian GNU/Linux
的發行版（像是
Ubuntu 或是 Konppix）可以說是不計其數。個人推估全世界的 Linux 中約有 1/3 受到此漏洞的影響，災情可以說十分慘重。

以 Debian GNU/Linux 受歡迎的程度，以及 openssl 函式庫的普及性，爆出一個如此愚蠢的漏洞是不可思議的，這可是讓 Debian
Project 頗覺臉上無光。但，與其批評 Debian 套件品質管理不佳，個人卻認為：『這是遲早的事。簡單得說，誰要看你的程式碼？』

記得很多人都說，Open Source 專案的程式碼漏洞較少，因為『原始碼是公開的，每一個人都可以看，當然程式的漏洞因而有效降低了』。但
openssl這件事卻告訴我們，這種觀點是經不起事實驗証的。那麼多人在用著 Debian GNU/Linux，那麼多的應用程式會用到
openssl 函式庫，但那麼大一個漏洞擺在那整整 2 年卻無人發現。是的，Open Source 專案的程式碼是公開的，但基本上沒人會去看。

更進一步說，整個 Open Source
的世界其實都是建構在如此薄弱的基礎上。當某人推出了一個好用的程式，除非特意去剝開來看，否則誰曉得裡面在搞什麼鬼？就算剝開來看了，真有什麼問題有時
就連原始開發者都搞不清楚了，更何況只是花了 5 分鐘來 trace code
的使用者？有時就算找到了問題點，解決的手法也多是頭痛醫頭腳痛醫腳的緊急手段，若沒有對整個程式的全盤了解，那些修正碼真的能用嗎？這卓實令人懷疑。於
是如此東修西補的結果，程式碼最後變成疊床架屋繁雜無當難以維護也就不令人意外了。

以個人最愛的 IceWM 為例。之前 Pidgin 的 Tray Icon 在 IceWM 上大小異常。不久 IceWM 便推出了解決方案：當 Tray
Icon 的 width 小於 height 時，強迫讓 width 等於 height。呃... 憑良心說：這算是解決方案嗎？

而不只是程式開發者。像是套件維護者、文件寫作者、翻譯者等等，都有類似的問題。有很多提交出來的修正檔其實並無法解決問題。有很多了不起的專案卻被打包成了不堪用的套件。而在翻譯時只是做做簡繁轉換的也比比皆是。甚至故意夾帶惡意程式碼等情事也時有耳聞。而會有誰特意去剝開來看裡面可能會發生什麼問題呢？如果再加上不甚用心的維護團隊，這簡直是一場大災難。想想看：連以龜毛著稱的
Debian Project 都會在 openssl 如此重要的套件上犯上這種不該犯的錯誤了，那麼其它的 Linux 發行套件呢？真讓人不敢再想下去了。

當然了，Debian 成名已久，這次的
openssl或許僅是單一事件事件罷了。不過這也給我們一個很大的警愓：別再怠惰了，找個時間，替自己的專案、套件、翻譯成果全部好好重看一次吧。Open
Source
的世界乃是根基於每個使用者身上，若每一個人連自己的管區都不肯花費心力好好維護的話，那麼希望 Open Source 能發展到什麼地步也只是癡人說夢罷了。

但在此同時，也別奢望會有什麼人會花費心力替您維護那些程式碼。自己的東西，還是憑藉著自己的良知好好得做下去吧！



Things you can do from here:

   - Subscribe to 今天的 Tetralet
又在唧唧喳喳了<http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ftetralet.luna.com.tw%2Frss.php%3FblogId%3D1%26profile%3Drss20?source=email>using
   *Google Reader*
   - Get started using Google
Reader<http://www.google.com/reader/?source=email>to easily keep up
with
   *all your favorite sites*


  --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
"Copy&Paste Exchange" group.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mindex?hl=zh-CN
-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---




-- 
'''过程改进乃是开始催生可促生靠谱的人的组织!
PI keeps evolving organizations which promoting people be good!
'''http://zoomquiet.org
Pls. usage OOo to replace M$ Office. http://zh.openoffice.org
Pls. usage 7-zip to replace WinRAR/WinZip. http://7-zip.org
You can get the truely Freedom 4 software.
-------------- 下一部分 --------------
一个HTML附件被移除...
URL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080518/85f3bf43/attachment.html 

From zoom.quiet在gmail.com  Mon May 19 11:15:02 2008
From: zoom.quiet在gmail.com (Zoom.Quiet)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:15:02 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] How to Run a Successful Free Software Project
In-Reply-To: <5b0f08ec-9dd9-4306-bb11-c674c465188f@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
References: <5b0f08ec-9dd9-4306-bb11-c674c465188f@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <9dad9f0a0805182015m483bc578m15863666ef01fc01@mail.gmail.com>

thanx for sharing!

2008/5/19 Bibby <michaelbibby在gmail.com>:
>
> Hi, all.
>
> 今天无意中找到的文档，分享一下：
>
> http://producingoss.com/
>
> Producing Open Source Software is a book about the human side of open
> source development. It describes how successful projects operate, the
> expectations of users and developers, and the culture of free
> software. The book is released under an open copyright: it is
> available in bookstores and from the publisher (O'Reilly Media), or
> you can browse or download it here.
>
> 有中文翻译版本，但还只是部分翻译。
>



-- 
'''过程改进乃是开始催生可促生靠谱的人的组织!
PI keeps evolving organizations which promoting people be good!
'''http://zoomquiet.org
Pls. usage OOo to replace M$ Office. http://zh.openoffice.org
Pls. usage 7-zip to replace WinRAR/WinZip.  http://7-zip.org
You can get the truely Freedom 4 software.

From filia.tao在gmail.com  Mon May 19 13:09:01 2008
From: filia.tao在gmail.com (Tao Fei)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:09:01 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] How to Run a Successful Free Software Project
In-Reply-To: <9dad9f0a0805182015m483bc578m15863666ef01fc01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5b0f08ec-9dd9-4306-bb11-c674c465188f@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
	<9dad9f0a0805182015m483bc578m15863666ef01fc01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <642a2c60805182209j6814da52te481a753bbc0f6db@mail.gmail.com>

去年Google Summer Of Code , Google 送的这本书 .
粗略的看过，还是比较不错的.

2008/5/19 Zoom. Quiet <zoom.quiet在gmail.com>:
> thanx for sharing!
>
> 2008/5/19 Bibby <michaelbibby在gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>> 今天无意中找到的文档，分享一下：
>>
>> http://producingoss.com/
>>
>> Producing Open Source Software is a book about the human side of open
>> source development. It describes how successful projects operate, the
>> expectations of users and developers, and the culture of free
>> software. The book is released under an open copyright: it is
>> available in bookstores and from the publisher (O'Reilly Media), or
>> you can browse or download it here.
>>
>> 有中文翻译版本，但还只是部分翻译。
>>
>
>
>
> --
> '''过程改进乃是开始催生可促生靠谱的人的组织!
> PI keeps evolving organizations which promoting people be good!
> '''http://zoomquiet.org
> Pls. usage OOo to replace M$ Office. http://zh.openoffice.org
> Pls. usage 7-zip to replace WinRAR/WinZip.  http://7-zip.org
> You can get the truely Freedom 4 software.
> _______________________________________________
> zeuux-universe mailing list
> zeuux-universe在zeuux.org
> http://www.zeuux.org/mailman/listinfo/zeuux-universe
>
> ZEUUX Project - Free Software, Free Society!
> http://www.zeuux.org



-- 
Tao Fei (陶飞)
My Blog: blog.filia.cn

From fros在163.com  Mon May 19 13:10:24 2008
From: fros在163.com (fros)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:10:24 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?gb2312?b?yKu5+rCntb/I1aOhxKywp6Oh?=
Message-ID: <48310BC0.000038.02384@bj163app6.163.com>

Ĭ����
-------------- 下一部分 --------------
һ��L���������RL: http://www.zeuux.org/pipermail/zeuux-universe/attachments/20080519/75de1489/attachment.html 

From zoom.quiet在gmail.com  Mon May 19 16:28:58 2008
From: zoom.quiet在gmail.com (Zoom.Quiet)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:28:58 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe]
	=?utf-8?b?55S16ISR6L2v5Lu257yW56iLIOWVhuS4mg==?=
	=?utf-8?b?5YyW5o6o5bm/?=
In-Reply-To: <7dc437b10805190122u16828093k206870ed51fa0255@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21275423.367291211183379878.JavaMail.coremail@bj163app21.163.com>
	<7dc437b10805190122u16828093k206870ed51fa0255@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9dad9f0a0805190128u119896bs22e9e3fb71294f49@mail.gmail.com>

163邮箱+QQ+汉民族复兴的基调 == 忽悠

2008/5/19 Albert Lee <hanzhupeng在gmail.com>:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: RRR335201在163.COM <rrr335201在163.com>
> Date: 2008/5/19
> Subject: 电脑软件编程 商业化推广
> To: hanzhupeng在gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   我是湖北应城沈铺中学教师饶新华。业余研究电脑软件编程。是一个关于办公及数据库方面的软件和一个数学方面的软件。第一个软件是最重要的.时间06.8.23至今.现处于测试的后期,和编写使用说明书.我有一些不明的地方,
> 如何作软件的商业化推广。望能指点,诚谢!
>
> 我的软件特点是快速方便简单.代码用的是"德非"语言。据我查看微软公司和金山公司同类型的软件,均有不方便和对于下层人民来说,使用很繁复.所以我认定,我的技术达到世界先进水平，东方技术将战胜西方技术.为中国的软件科技作贡献，为国家争光。就象是一个乡村画家去大学作报告.独具匠心,以四两拔千斤.我的软件只是从小的方面入手,在基础方面拓展开去.而微软公司的软件从大的方面切入,就象建设一幢高楼大厦，着手鸿篇专制。
>
> 对于软件，按法律，一般定为著作权，不定为专利权。专利法规定先行原则，别人后研究申报出来的同类科技，作废。而软件著作权无此规定，它说，当由于只存在同一思想途径而达到某一技术结果，有相同软件时，两人的软件无论先后，均存在著作权，不存在侵权。（打比方，就像勾股定理与哥达毕拉斯定理）我想，这是为了我国赶超国外先进软件科技而定的。另外，著作权的获得，不需要申报手续，当软件完成，自动获得。
>
> 要实现科技进入市场化,我无经验.我爸说,如果别人不要你的,你做得再好,也无用.外人也说,要成名,也需要机遇.
>
> 我想，我的软件会进入到市场，因为它是有效实用的，效果明显。我想通过向大公司转让技术，获得报酬。我担心，在谈判时，对方了解我的软件详情后，无理地说，我的软件有错，或他们不需要。拒绝我。然后他们照着我的思路，去编写代码，窃取了我的智慧。我就被骗了。
>
> 我也担心，对方唯利是图，要看我过去的成功之处，然后和我谈。我以前实在是没有作别的专门软件，甚至专业知识很欠缺。这一点，就像盲人音乐家阿丙，它没有上音乐专门学校。所以，许多人会不相信我的软件。
>
> 我的软件，必须与大公司合作，因为我一个人，不可能把整个软件做出来。因为它是一个大的软件，项目多而杂乱。而且那样也是重复，我有独创先进之处，只占很少的部分。（我知道视窗操作系统，它集合了全球许多人的智慧，也包括中国计算机专家的科技。）
>
> 对于我的软件的更多情况，我会注意严格保密。实在是怕泄密。因为我可以用一句话总结我的思想，或者只用两个字也能点明要旨。如果突破了那两个字，就"自由了"。我突破了那两个字，我就"自由了"。当我在项目研究时，我也无意中发现在外界软件的某个蛛丝马迹方面，也渗透了这种思想。但不明显。世人没有注意到。而那种思想，并不代表软件本身。我研究前，也不是从那里获取灵感。以前，我做编程练习时，忘了书上的思路，而我又无那本书，我就试着做。我没有按常规去做，是一种全新的方法，就发现这种方法是一个大的突破。它会使人睡不着觉，使人兴奋。现在，那种例题的常规思路，也常在一些书中可见。它只表明了知识的运用，没有创新。要学那个知识，弄个例题来练习以掌握知识。这就像内定了某人必须嫁某人，没有选择。可见，题目与知识之间，应当有选择权。
>
> 我在着手做对外联系，关于软件的商业化，以积累经验。在7月份我就到北京去。
>
>
>
>
>
> 湖北应城沈铺中学饶新华
>
> 邮编432419
>
> 电话: 13971963763
>
> QQ亮雨937536585,
>
> E MAIL:RRR335201在163.COM
>
> 请通过     E MAIL联系.
>
>  2008 5 19
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> ________________________________
> 中 国 最 强 网 游 --- 网 易 梦 幻 西 游 ，166 万 玩 家 同 时 在 线
>



-- 
'''过程改进乃是开始催生可促生靠谱的人的组织!
PI keeps evolving organizations which promoting people be good!
'''http://zoomquiet.org
Pls. usage OOo to replace M$ Office. http://zh.openoffice.org
Pls. usage 7-zip to replace WinRAR/WinZip.  http://7-zip.org
You can get the truely Freedom 4 software.

From paradise.qingfeng在gmail.com  Mon May 19 16:45:29 2008
From: paradise.qingfeng在gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?x+W35w==?=)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:45:29 +0800
Subject: [zeuux-universe] =?gb2312?b?tefE1MjtvP6x4LPMIMnM0rW7r83GueM=?=
In-Reply-To: <9dad9f0a0805190128u119896bs22e9e3fb71294f49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21275423.367291211183379878.JavaMail.coremail@bj163app21.163.com>
	<7dc437b10805190122u16828093k206870ed51fa0255@mail.gmail.com>
	<9dad9f0a0805190128u119896bs22e9e3fb71294f49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3ef598910805190145q1a49879fj802d06091bc89ac9@mail.gmail.com>

民科.......

2008/5/19 Zoom. Quiet <zoom.quiet在gmail.com>:
> 163邮箱+QQ+汉民族复兴的基调 == 忽悠
>
> 2008/5/19 Albert Lee <hanzhupeng在gmail.com>:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: RRR335201在163.COM <rrr335201在163.com>
>> Date: 2008/5/19
>> Subject: 电脑软件编程 商业化推广
>> To: hanzhupeng在gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   我是湖北应城沈铺中学教师饶新华。业余研究电脑软件编程。是一个关于办公及数据库方面的软件和一个数学方面的软件。第一个软件是最重要的.时间06.8.23至今.现处于测试的后期,和编写使用说明书.我有一些不明的地方,
>> 如何作软件的商业化推广。望能指点,诚谢!
>>
>> 我的软件特点是快速方便简单.代码用的是"德非"语言。据我查看微软公司和金山公司同类型的软件,均有不方便和对于下层人民来说,使用很繁复.所以我认定,我的技术达到世界先进水平，东方技术将战胜西方技术.为中国的软件科技作贡献，为国家争光。就象是一个乡村画家去大学作报告.独具匠心,以四两拔千斤.我的软件只是从小的方面入手,在基础方面拓展开去.而微软公司的软件从大的方面切入,就象建设一幢高楼大厦，着手鸿篇专制。
>>
>> 对于软件，按法律，一般定为著作权，不定为专利权。专利法规定先行原则，别人后研究申报出来的同类科技，作废。而软件著作权无此规定，它说，当由于只存在同一思想途径而达到某一技术结果，有相同软件时，两人的软件无论先后，均存在著作权，不存在侵权。（打比方，就像勾股定理与哥达毕拉斯定理）我想，这是为了我国赶超国外先进软件科技而定的。另外，著作权的获得，不需要申报手续，当软件完成，自动获得。
>>
>> 要实现科技进入市场化,我无经验.我爸说,如果别人不要你的,你做得再好,也无用.外人也说,要成名,也需要机遇.
>>
>> 我想，我的软件会进入到市场，因为它是有效实用的，效果明显。我想通过向大公司转让技术，获得报酬。我担心，在谈判时，对方了解我的软件详情后，无理地说，我的软件有错，或他们不需要。拒绝我。然后他们照着我的思路，去编写代码，窃取了我的智慧。我就被骗了。
>>
>> 我也担心，对方唯利是图，要看我过去的成功之处，然后和我谈。我以前实在是没有作别的专门软件，甚至专业知识很欠缺。这一点，就像盲人音乐家阿丙，它没有上音乐专门学校。所以，许多人会不相信我的软件。
>>
>> 我的软件，必须与大公司合作，因为我一个人，不可能把整个软件做出来。因为它是一个大的软件，项目多而杂乱。而且那样也是重复，我有独创先进之处，只占很少的部分。（我知道视窗操作系统，它集合了全球许多人的智慧，也包括中国计算机专家的科技。）
>>
>> 对于我的软件的更多情况，我会注意严格保密。实在是怕泄密。因为我可以用一句话总结我的思想，或者只用两个字也能点明要旨。如果突破了那两个字，就"自由了"。我突破了那两个字，我就"自由了"。当我在项目研究时，我也无意中发现在外界软件的某个蛛丝马迹方面，也渗透了这种思想。但不明显。世人没有注意到。而那种思想，并不代表软件本身。我研究前，也不是从那里获取灵感。以前，我做编程练习时，忘了书上的思路，而我又无那本书，我就试着做。我没有按常规去做，是一种全新的方法，就发现这种方法是一个大的突破。它会使人睡不着觉，使人兴奋。现在，那种例题的常规思路，也常在一些书中可见。它只表明了知识的运用，没有创新。要学那个知识，弄个例题来练习以掌握知识。这就像内定了某人必须嫁某人，没有选择。可见，题目与知识之间，应当有选择权。
>>
>> 我在着手做对外联系，关于软件的商业化，以积累经验。在7月份我就到北京去。
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 湖北应城沈铺中学饶新华
>>
>> 邮编432419
>>
>> 电话: 13971963763
>>
>> QQ亮雨937536585,
>>
>> E MAIL:RRR335201在163.COM
>>
>> 请通过     E MAIL联系.
>>
>>  2008 5 19
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> ________________________________
>> 中 国 最 强 网 游 --- �